[Denver]

Originally Posted by LukeB

All i'm saying is twitter and ammi

So you are bringing up members pasts because you cant take criticism of your friend who is on national TV?

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Drop it Luke

Eh wait a minute

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I just feel like some people will scrutinise Raph on here out of some sort of personal vendetta against him even if he said the Sky was blue.

I mean we've got some right twats in there, and people seem to think it's cool to go for Raph, I honestly don't get it as his a great Forum member on here, and his been a likable Housemate so far.

I respect that he's a valuable member that has done a lot on the forum, and is pursuing his dream but that doesn't exempt one from criticism.

"The right twats" haven't acted up yet, when they do I'm sure they will be criticised all the same

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So you are bringing up members pasts because you cant take criticism of your friend who is on national TV?

i can take criticism but there's people who would jump the grill and act like they haven't done anything bad

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Who's done worse than cheat

People on here have called other member paedophiles in the past, and have wished Celebrities to die (I know jokingly) but over the years I've seen alot worse posted on here that the public would be horrified if they saw it (including from myself tbf) that Raph has never said.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

All i'm saying is twitter and ammi

What have permanently banned members got to do with this

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I've not made anything up you're the one telling us what Raph thinks pal?

You couldn't give two ****s what i say about him lol, this is a free chance to take shots at him for you, i'll leave you to it though

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

All i'm saying is twitter and ammi

This was done by a permabanned member, not sure what relevance it has now

[Glenn.]

I'm pale now thanks mock

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i can take criticism but there's people who would jump the grill and act like they haven't done anything bad

Most of us are judging him as we see him and that is how it should be we are discussing him as a housemate not a forum member

[Alf]

Just jealous of Raph getting plenty of pickle tickle?

Me too

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

This was done by a permabanned member, not sure what relevance it has now

sure.jan

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I don't blame anyone for questioning it, i just think it's a chance some people were waiting for to jump in to grill him

I still support him personally as I like him as a person but as I have been cheated on and know how ****ty it made me feel I will grill him for it as I would any housemate.

Ask yourself if you would be defending any other housemate being grilled for being a serial cheat. I doubt it.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

See that last paragraph is why its not better than being cheated on with another girl cos in your eyes the only time it was bad was when he cheated on a guy so the other relationships werent "real" but they would have been for the girls so thats an extra hurt to deal with

Yeah I agree with this. It's all fine and well excusing it by saying he was only 16 or whatever but it was a conscious decision and became a habit, it seems.

I wouldn't defend what he did, and am a bit baffled by him mentioning it to producers and not expecting them to drop it in an icebreaker task. Thankfully the housemates will have bigger arguments and seemed (oddly) sympathetic to him for being honest.

Just think certain members have been sitting with their hand on the trigger ever since the fanclub was made and he was leaked as a housemate. Digging up posts about Mollie, about being sweety_samy, about COL, about his BBUSA favourites, whatever - so don't act like you're all just discussing him on the show when you've already had posts deleted for screenshotting completely irrelevant stuff to BB18.

[smudgie]

If Raph was living in the same area all the time he was cheating, surely the people he was sleeping around with would have known his reputation.
It's not like he is old enough to have been in long term relationships...or does he just look very young for his age?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because it wasn't a topic on an episode of the very TV show this forum was created to discuss? Whereas now... it is.

Shocking I know.

This Forum doesn't normally care about this sort of stuff to this extent, even when other Housemates have done **** like this.

It's a classic case of building Raph up and then knocking him down.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Yeah I agree with this. It's all fine and well excusing it by saying he was only 16 or whatever but it was a conscious decision and became a habit, it seems.

I wouldn't defend what he did, and am a bit baffled by him mentioning it to producers and not expecting them to drop it in an icebreaker task. Thankfully the housemates will have bigger arguments and seemed (oddly) sympathetic to him for being honest.

Just think certain members have been sitting with their hand on the trigger ever since the fanclub was made and he was leaked as a housemate. Digging up posts about Mollie, about being sweety_samy, about COL, about his BBUSA favourites, whatever - so don't act like you're all just discussing him on the show when you've already had posts deleted for screenshotting completely irrelevant stuff to BB18.

It's not even subtle either.

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If Raph was living in the same area all the time he was cheating, surely the people he was sleeping around with would have known his reputation.
It's not like he is old enough to have been in long term relationships...or does he just look very young for his age?

He moves around a lot, but I believe it was said that the 3 girlfriends he cheated on was during his high school days. He was young.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If Raph was living in the same area all the time he was cheating, surely the people he was sleeping around with would have known his reputation.
It's not like he is old enough to have been in long term relationships...or does he just look very young for his age?

Yes lets blame the victims instead. Wow.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

This Forum doesn't normally care about this sort of stuff to this extent, even when other Housemates have done **** like this.

It's a classic case of building Raph up and then knocking him down.

Cheats are the most hated type of housemate on here

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Drew.

You couldn't give two ****s what i say about him lol, this is a free chance to take shots at him for you, i'll leave you to it though

Eh? I knew nothing about him prior to BB beyond him being friends with Luke.

In fact if me and Raph even posted in the same thread at any time I'd be surprised.

But yeah. I've been waiting for free shots.. ... just because eh?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Locke.

He moves around a lot, but I believe it was said that the 3 girlfriends he cheated on was during his high school days. He was young.

So they probably knew he was just a player then, not in it for love ever after and all that.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I still support him personally as I like him as a person but as I have been cheated on and know how ****ty it made me feel I will grill him for it as I would any housemate.

Ask yourself if you would be defending any other housemate being grilled for being a serial cheat. I doubt it.

Realistically i probably wouldn't, but i don't personally know any of the other housemates, i wouldn't know if they were being genuine saying things like they were remorseful, whereas i do in this situation

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I just feel like some people will scrutinise Raph on here out of some sort of personal vendetta against him even if he said the Sky was blue.

I mean we've got some right twats in there, and people seem to think it's cool to go for Raph, I honestly don't get it as his a great Forum member on here, and his been a likable Housemate so far.

Tbf I've never had a problem with Raph on the forum, like I'm in his fan club now. But he did not come across well on todays show like I can't really see why some people are getting so defensive..

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by smudgie

So they probably knew he was just a player then, not in it for love ever after and all that.

This doesn't really excuse him cheating though