[Wizard.]

Labour gonna win bookmark me

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Nathan

I love tea

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Labour gonna win bookmark me

Here for it even though it's gonna **** me up getting my euros for Greece next week

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Labour gonna win bookmark me

Don't even try and get my hopes up bish!!

I would bank absolutely everything on a Tory win and by a fair few seats as well.

I am not allowed nice things.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Here for it even though it's gonna **** me up getting my euros for Greece next week

Mystic Riley and Boris is shook

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Alf

Tax the rich to give to the poor.
The rich don't want to be ordered to give their money away
So the rich move to a place that doesn't want to take their money of them
There is no longer any rich people to tax

That's why socialism, never has or never will work.

I would qualify this by saying, Democracy itself can't work in a Capitalist society. He who has the most gold, gets the most votes.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Anaesthesia

I would qualify this by saying, Democracy itself can't work in a Capitalist society. He who has the most gold, gets the most votes.

But at least the shelves in the supermarket would be full. And we'd have food to eat.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Tax the rich to give to the poor.
The rich don't want to be ordered to give their money away
So the rich move to a place that doesn't want to take their money of them
There is no longer any rich people to tax

That's why socialism, never has or never will work.

I dunno...I was in Copenhagen last year and democratic socialism is working out quite well for them. Socialism can work, unfortunately it's very nature in it's purest sense fundamentally relies on people not being dicks.

Nah I'm not in Blackpool, Smithy. I just got wind through Shaun's Facebook that a TiBB person was on BB so I happen to be coasting on through during Britain's annual Dick In Mouth week with it's abusive overlords (No offence. We do that every few years too), something that despite better judgement I'm invested in coz politics is like my television.

[Denver]

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

Tories expected to win with 66 seat majority

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Stu

I dunno...I was in Copenhagen last year and democratic socialism is working out quite well for them. Socialism can work, unfortunately it's very nature in it's purest sense fundamentally relies on people not being dicks.

Nah I'm not in Blackpool, Smithy. I just got wind through Shaun's Facebook that a TiBB person was on BB so I happen to be coasting on through during Britain's annual Dick In Mouth week with it's abusive overlords (No offence. We do that every few years too), something that despite better judgement I'm invested in coz politics is like my television.

There are strong arguments that Denmark isn't a socialist country, even from their Prime Minister.



In response to Americans frequently referring to his country as socialist, the prime minister of Denmark recently remarked in a lecture at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government,
"I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy"

[reece(:]

Is this the discussion thread for tonight?

[Alf]

Don't see why not Reece, unless you want to make a new one?

[Alf]

Adam's beat you too it.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Alf

Adam's beat you too it.

It is an historic moment i had too

[Brother Leon]

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It is an historic moment i had too

Barely. Its the Tories staying in power in an election that shouldn't even be happening.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Labour gonna win bookmark me

Not gonna happen, assuming uniform national swing they'd have to be leading by 12% to get a majority of two. In any case they need to pick up just under 100 seats to for a majority, and that'd require them making gains in seats with 9-10k majorities for the Tories like Loughborough (without even factoring in the UKIP defectors).

The absolute best result for Labour is to gain around 30-40 seats at the expense of the Tories, which'd put them in a position to govern as a minority. Again, though, I don't see this happening. The smaller the Conservative majority the better, if they're under 350 seats it'll be hysterical because this election will have been pointless.

For what it's worth, here's my prediction:

My head says the Tories will be on around 380, but I'm gonna be a tad more pessimistic and think this really will be an all-out-disaster, so:

Con - 44%
Lab - 31%

Con - 418
Lab - 152

[Wizard.]

Okay guess we're discussing in here

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Can't wait for all the conspiracy theories on why Labour tanked

Nobody needs any conspiracy theories, though. It's too far out of the closet that a huge amount of the population will vote for the bastards no matter what. And things like disgusting tabloid smear campaigns aren't the remit of conspiracy theories, because you can sort of just look at the pages. With your eyes.

The right has been accusing the left of being too PC fascist, namby pamby for awhile now. Afraid of calling a spade a spade lest it upset the spade. Hopefully after tonight those on the left will no longer feel the need to pussyfoot around those who voted for the bastards and spend five years openly shaming them with every nasty little stroke that affects decent, ordinary people.

This election has brought the left of Britain back from the dead. And the left should be ****ing angry.

[Denver]

Bit unfair we cant have a fresh page for tonights discussion when it will generate so many posts

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Stu

Nobody needs any conspiracy theories, though. It's too far out of the closet that a huge amount of the population will vote for the bastards no matter what. And things like disgusting tabloid smear campaigns aren't the remit of conspiracy theories, because you can sort of just look at the pages. With your eyes.

The right has been accusing the left of being too PC fascist, namby pamby for awhile now. Afraid of calling a spade a spade lest it upset the spade. Hopefully after tonight those on the left will no longer feel the need to pussyfoot around those who voted for the bastards and spend five years openly shaming them with every nasty little stroke that affects decent, ordinary people.

This election has brought the left of Britain back from the dead. And the left should be ****ing angry.

But you can't just be angry for 5 years due to a democratic decision- I'm proud to live in a democracy and even if that means a party I don't agree with wins then so be it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Not gonna happen, assuming uniform national swing they'd have to be leading by 12% to get a majority of two. In any case they need to pick up just under 100 seats to for a majority, and that'd require them making gains in seats with 9-10k majorities for the Tories like Loughborough (without even factoring in the UKIP defectors).

The absolute best result for Labour is to gain around 30-40 seats at the expense of the Tories, which'd put them in a position to govern as a minority. Again, though, I don't see this happening. The smaller the Conservative majority the better, if they're under 350 seats it'll be hysterical because this election will have been pointless.

For what it's worth, here's my prediction:

My head says the Tories will be on around 380, but I'm gonna be a tad more pessimistic and think this really will be an all-out-disaster, so:

Con - 44%
Lab - 31%

Con - 418
Lab - 152

What about the preparations for a hung parliament that were supposed to be happening? :/ Hold on Jack!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Riley.

But you can't just be angry for 5 years due to a democratic decision- I'm proud to live in a democracy and even if that means a party I don't agree with wins then so be it.

Yes, you can.

You really, really can.

It's kind of how a lot of democracies work. Opposition and all that. Pressure.

Christ.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Stu

Nobody needs any conspiracy theories, though. It's too far out of the closet that a huge amount of the population will vote for the bastards no matter what. And things like disgusting tabloid smear campaigns aren't the remit of conspiracy theories, because you can sort of just look at the pages. With your eyes.

The right has been accusing the left of being too PC fascist, namby pamby for awhile now. Afraid of calling a spade a spade lest it upset the spade. Hopefully after tonight those on the left will no longer feel the need to pussyfoot around those who voted for the bastards and spend five years openly shaming them with every nasty little stroke that affects decent, ordinary people.

This election has brought the left of Britain back from the dead. And the left should be ****ing angry.

Don't worry, I will be. This campaign has made me hate this country more than ever, and I will simply refuse to be silenced.

There'll be protests tomorrow, and those on the right will no doubt proclaim they 'don't respect democracy', forgetting of course that democracy doesn't begin and end with an election. I've been happy to congratulate the winning side before, but the platform the Tories are standing on this time is so ****ing reprehensible that I'll be doing no such thing. What they're about to do to this country makes me feel physically repulsed.