[Cherry Christmas]

Nicola like May didn't read the mood of the people, both promoting themselves over the people that put them in office

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nicola like May didn't read the mood of the people, both promoting themselves over the people that put them in office

I don't think it's really self promotion for Wee Nic, the driving force behind the SNP was always independence, and she has just been running with that. The issue is that the SNP were a small party not so long ago and so operated on this key issue, and they haven't fully adapted to having a larger scale.

If they want to remain Scotlands largest party (which I do think is best for Scotland) then they need to change their focus and message from "whatever it takes to get independence" to "whatever gets the best deal for Scottish people".

I'm not concerned about the SNP being down to 35 seats in Westminster, the 2015 result was always going to be a one off rooted in one key issue. I am slightly concerned that so many swung to Conservative rather than others, but I'm not entirely surprised, because the Tories were absolutely hammering the Union propaganda in the run up to the election north if the border. I was getting spam in the post every day and there was a very heavy focus on "Only voting Conservative makes it clear that you don't want another referendum". That was their entire campaign up here. I do think many who agree with that message would have voted Labour, had they not (mistakenly, it now seems) believed that Labour was dead in the water and a "pointless vote".

[Parmy]

Were you surprised at robertson losing his seat TS?

Why do you think he lost?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Were you surprised at robertson losing his seat TS?

Why do you think he lost?

I've not seen the figures for his seat but most seats that went blue seem to be a combination of two factors, both based on not wanting another referendum. The first was the Tories setting themselves up as the "No" vote ("Labour can't beat the SNP here!" was their mantra) and the second was the rest of the "sick of indy" vote swinging from SNP to Labour, diluting the SNP vote and handing the win to Conservatives.

But yeah overall, the entire reason for them losing seats is jumping the gun on Indy2. They've totally blown it there IMO. I personally think that ship sailed months ago anyway, but SNP are still the best for Scottish interests regardless. They damaged themselves by pushing the message that they're The Independence Party.

[Parmy]

Cheers.

I liked him, he spoke well.