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Old 10-06-2017, 11:53 AM #1
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Also have to say... A bit of irony to see people complaining about ageism against the older generations, whilst in the same post being ageist about young people. it does work both ways, you know. For every "inexperienced" young voter, there's an "out of touch" elderly voter.
No irony at all TS, I posted this because of all the finger pointing that was done to "old people" voting in the EU referendum and how they would be dead before the consequences would be felt etc, shame a lot of the same finger pointers didn't feel the need to vote in the mass numbers as they obviously did this time round, so as the old saying goes, sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander the good thing to come out of this is that people are realising how important their vote is...20 votes the difference in safe seat Kensington...also TS I didn't resort to using insulting terms to describe young voters

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No irony at all TS, I posted this because of all the finger pointing that was done to "old people" voting in the EU referendum and how they would be dead before the consequences would be felt etc, shame a lot of the same finger pointers didn't feel the need to vote in the mass numbers as they obviously did this time round, so as the old saying goes, sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander the good thing to come out of this is that people are realising how important their vote is...20 votes the difference in safe seat Kensington...
Hmm you responded to one of my posts, and I ignored it because I didnt really understand it.. but if this was your reasoning, then that wasnt my intention. I was simply pointing out that 100% of the young is outnumbered by 100% of the old, 100% of 18-30s are still outnumbered by 50% of 50+'s. I was talking quantities, this isnt speculative.
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Hmm you responded to one of my posts, and I ignored it because I didnt really understand it.. but if this was your reasoning, then that wasnt my intention. I was simply pointing out that 100% of the young is outnumbered by 100% of the old, 100% of 18-30s are still outnumbered by 50% of 50+'s. I was talking quantities, this isnt speculative.
There is an age distribution gap, and one that will always be there.

Politics and outcome doesn't need to be governed by age though, in the same way that north/south divides don't need to be the deciding factor.

Also, lets highlight the most obvious example. Corbyn is approaching being 70 years old. He is past normal retirement age already and here he is championing the causes that the young demographic identify with.

Politics just isn't that simple, and can't be generalised so easily.
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There is an age distribution gap, and one that will always be there.

Politics and outcome doesn't need to be governed by age though, in the same way that north/south divides don't need to be the deciding factor.

Also, lets highlight the most obvious example. Corbyn is approaching being 70 years old. He is past normal retirement age already and here he is championing the causes that the young demographic identify with.

Politics just isn't that simple, and can't be generalised so easily.
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There is an age distribution gap, and one that will always be there.

Politics and outcome doesn't need to be governed by age though, in the same way that north/south divides don't need to be the deciding factor.

Also, lets highlight the most obvious example. Corbyn is approaching being 70 years old. He is past normal retirement age already and here he is championing the causes that the young demographic identify with.

Politics just isn't that simple, and can't be generalised so easily.
Im still just talking quantities. There are literally more old than young, and they have historically voted differently to one another.
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Hmm you responded to one of my posts, and I ignored it because I didnt really understand it.. but if this was your reasoning, then that wasnt my intention. I was simply pointing out that 100% of the young is outnumbered by 100% of the old, 100% of 18-30s are still outnumbered by 50% of 50+'s. I was talking quantities, this isnt speculative.
It is speculative as you are assuming in that scenario that all oldies vote one way...the days of people voting one party for ever is over ask UKIP
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It is speculative as you are assuming in that scenario that all oldies vote one way...the days of people voting one party for ever is over ask UKIP
But your post was in response to me suggesting, that this time, a lot of the old voted with the young instead of against them.. youve fought for both sides now!
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But your post was in response to me suggesting, that this time, a lot of the old voted with the young instead of against them.. youve fought for both sides now!
No I'm not because for all you know the same people might have voted the same way in 2015 but the young weren't out in force so we will never know will we
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No I'm not because for all you know the same people might have voted the same way in 2015 but the young weren't out in force so we will never know will we
Oh. No not really

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Oh. No not really

You would need to compare it to 2017 averages to get a definitive picture surely
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