[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I really wish they wouldn't even bother releasing these monster's names.. concentrate on the victims, their families and the heroes, and deny the terrorists the glory they want.

Tell you what Lee, I agree. After the Manchester bombings I refused to look at a single article that was about that sick ****. Let them have total anonymity.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

he appeared on a C4 programme called the Jihadi next door

Out there for all of us to see. Yet still we couldn't stop it. You have to wonder how seriously intelligence is being taken

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Anaesthesia

Tell you what Lee, I agree. After the Manchester bombings I refused to look at a single article that was about that sick ****. Let them have total anonymity.

Yeah, I watched a Sky News special programme called "Manchester Mourns" and the whole half hour was dedicated to those at the concert, what others had said about the victims and the people who had helped. Not one mention of the terrorists and I thought it was a lovely tribute.
They don't deserve news coverage.

[arista]

good on you fella

[arista]

[arista]

that now Dead Terrorist
was on a ch4 docu

[arista]

[arista]

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by arista

Brilliant.
Standing together against Terrorist scum.

[longstar]

my view on a future civil war in this country and in Europe is still on course, but many people are only seeing tiny bits of that now, and it will get worse over time, if the politicians keep to the PC line and not enforce things like mass-deportations, internment prisons, arming every single police officer, to passing a law to ban Saudi funded mosques and preachers, then the big consequences will end up with English communities making there own Paramilitaries groups, and with it, you get tit for tat killings, and that means more blood on the street, the destruction in N,Ireland will happen here but on a much bigger scale, and on different ideologies, you can say that having Belfast peace walls in some area's of this country will never happen, but we are already a divided nation in most things anyway, and there is already isolation in some large housing estates and street houses in parts of the country, and you can't fully blame mi5/6 because if there are 23.000 or more, that makes it impossible for them to track them all, and people don't understand why deportations and internment works, because it makes the mi5/6 job more easier to stop attacks and save lives, you can see that monitoring can not track the numbers we have in this country, the politicians now must make the tough calls, if they don't then we know whats going to happen.

[arista]

Reports are saying Total dead is now 8
as a french man was taken out of the River Thames
they think was Hit by the Van

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by arista

Reports are saying Total dead is now 8
as a french man was taken out of the River Thames
they think was Hit by the Van

Terrible especially as they were looking in the water as well, but in the darkness easily missed RIP poor guy just visiting London for the weekend.

[Parmy]

I think there are at least 1 more missing..

Must admit that did confuse me that people were missing...sadly i now know why.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by longstar

my view on a future civil war in this country and in Europe is still on course, but many people are only seeing tiny bits of that now, and it will get worse over time, if the politicians keep to the PC line and not enforce things like mass-deportations, internment prisons, arming every single police officer, to passing a law to ban Saudi funded mosques and preachers, then the big consequences will end up with English communities making there own Paramilitaries groups, and with it, you get tit for tat killings, and that means more blood on the street, the destruction in N,Ireland will happen here but on a much bigger scale, and on different ideologies, you can say that having Belfast peace walls in some area's of this country will never happen, but we are already a divided nation in most things anyway, and there is already isolation in some large housing estates and street houses in parts of the country, and you can't fully blame mi5/6 because if there are 23.000 or more, that makes it impossible for them to track them all, and people don't understand why deportations and internment works, because it makes the mi5/6 job more easier to stop attacks and save lives, you can see that monitoring can not track the numbers we have in this country, the politicians now must make the tough calls, if they don't then we know whats going to happen.

[James]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Terrible especially as they were looking in the water as well, but in the darkness easily missed RIP poor guy just visiting London for the weekend.

I was thinking that it is particularly sad that people have come to this country, and our society hasn't been able to keep them safe.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by arista

good on you fella

Brave man. We need more like him. Not all these simpering fools kowtowing to them out of fear - those that believe we should bend over backwards all the time to meet their demands in case they might attack us.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by James

I was thinking that it is particularly sad that people have come to this country, and our society hasn't been able to keep them safe.

Yes that is sad. I've always felt very safe in London and I hope others don't lose that feeling.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Brave man. We need more like him. Not all these simpering fools kowtowing to them out of fear - those that believe we should bend over backwards all the time to meet their demands in case they might attack us.

What demands are you talking about?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What demands are you talking about?

Being able to go and fight overseas in support of countries they were not born in against the country they were born in and then expecting to come back to that country as if nothing had happened immediately comes to mind. They call that treason don't they.

What have they done about that - very little it seems.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Being able to go and fight overseas in support of countries they were not born in against the country they were born in and then expecting to come back to that country as if nothing had happened immediately comes to mind. They call that treason don't they.

What have they done about that - very little it seems.

That isn't "meeting their demands" though, you can't not let a citizen of your own country back in but we're going round in circles with this one again

[Cherry Christmas]

Bridge terrorists tried to hire a 7.5-tonne lorry online on the morning of their attack, police have revealed.

But the payment by the gang's leader, Khuram Butt, failed to go through.

Instead, he hired a smaller van and loaded it with bags of gravel, probably to make it heavier so it could be a more effective battering ram.

The van was used to mow down the first victims, killing three of them, as it mounted the pavement on the busy bridge last Saturday night.

Inside the van used in the London Bridge attacks
Image:
The van was weighed down with gravel, police have revealed
The gang crashed the vehicle into railings and then ran through Borough Market, randomly stabbing more terrified victims at bars and restaurants, before armed officers arrived and shot them dead.

Soon after, police opened the van and discovered thirteen Molotov cocktails - firebombs made from wine bottles, filled with lighter fuel, perhaps intended for another wave of attacks.

One of the knives used in the London Bridge attacks
Image:
One of the knives used in the London Bridge attacks
Each terrorist carried a 12-inch, pink ceramic kitchen knife with a razor-sharp blade and used them to kill five people in the market.

Butt, 27, had wrapped the handle of his weapon with duct tape and tied it to his wrist with a leather strap.

Identical knives, with the brand name Ernesto, were carried by Rachid Redouane, 30, and 22-year-old Youssef Zaghba.

Thirteen Molotov cocktails were found in the van
Image:
Thirteen Molotov cocktails were found in the van
Commander Dean Haydon, head of Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command, said: "We've been working round the clock to understand what these men did in the lead up to the attack, but we need to know more about these unusual knives.

"Where have they come from? Where might the attackers have bought them? If you know anything about these particular types of knives, please let us know. It could prove a crucial lead in our investigation."

Police have discovered the gang used a bedsit, above a bookie's in Barking, east London, as a safe house, rented by Redouane in April.

There they found evidence that linked it to the attack and an English-language copy of the Koran, open at a page describing martyrdom, said Commander Haydon.

Khuram Butt has been named as one of the three men who carried out the terror attack on London Bridge and Borough
Image:
Khuram Butt tried to hire a bigger vehicle but his payment did not go through
Among the evidence were plastic water bottles, like those used to create the fake suicide belts each of the terrorists was wearing during the attack.

The new details come as police made two further arrests in connection with the attack, bringing the number to seven.

A 28-year-old man was arrested at around 2am on Saturday in Barking, east London, on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism.

Earlier on Saturday, a 27-year-old man was arrested during a raid in Ilford, east London. He was also held on suspicion of preparing terrorist acts.

Floral tributes lay in Potters Fields Park following the June 3rd terror attack on June 6, 2017 in London, England. Seven people were killed and at least 48 injured in terror attacks on London Bridge and Borough Market on June 3rd. Three attackers were shot dead by armed police. (Photo by Jack Taylor/Getty Images)
Image:
Eight people were killed in the attack
Police say they have interviewed 262 witnesses, from 19 countries.

They believe there are more who haven't come forward and they are urging them to do so.

They are also warning the public of other similar attacks and want to hear from anyone suspicious of behaviour around the use of hire vehicles, fuel, knives and mobile phones.

Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick said she needed Londoners to be "really alert".

She said: "We know that the attackers hired a vehicle that very day.

"So we need, for example, people who are hiring vans and lorries out to just think about who these people are and if you have any concerns at all to contact us on the anti-terrorist hotline."

Ms Dick added that the force will "step up a gear and do our level best to stop any further attacks".

Posted in: LONDON BRIDGE ATTACK

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Bridge terrorists tried to hire a 7.5-tonne lorry online on the morning of their attack, police have revealed.

But the payment by the gang's leader, Khuram Butt, failed to go through.

Instead, he hired a smaller van and loaded it with bags of gravel, probably to make it heavier so it could be a more effective battering ram.

The van was used to mow down the first victims, killing three of them, as it mounted the pavement on the busy bridge last Saturday night.

Inside the van used in the London Bridge attacks
Image:
The van was weighed down with gravel, police have revealed
The gang crashed the vehicle into railings and then ran through Borough Market, randomly stabbing more terrified victims at bars and restaurants, before armed officers arrived and shot them dead.

Soon after, police opened the van and discovered thirteen Molotov cocktails - firebombs made from wine bottles, filled with lighter fuel, perhaps intended for another wave of attacks.

One of the knives used in the London Bridge attacks
Image:
One of the knives used in the London Bridge attacks
Each terrorist carried a 12-inch, pink ceramic kitchen knife with a razor-sharp blade and used them to kill five people in the market.

Butt, 27, had wrapped the handle of his weapon with duct tape and tied it to his wrist with a leather strap.

Identical knives, with the brand name Ernesto, were carried by Rachid Redouane, 30, and 22-year-old Youssef Zaghba.

Thirteen Molotov cocktails were found in the van
Image:
Thirteen Molotov cocktails were found in the van
Commander Dean Haydon, head of Scotland Yard's Counter Terrorism Command, said: "We've been working round the clock to understand what these men did in the lead up to the attack, but we need to know more about these unusual knives.

"Where have they come from? Where might the attackers have bought them? If you know anything about these particular types of knives, please let us know. It could prove a crucial lead in our investigation."

Police have discovered the gang used a bedsit, above a bookie's in Barking, east London, as a safe house, rented by Redouane in April.

There they found evidence that linked it to the attack and an English-language copy of the Koran, open at a page describing martyrdom, said Commander Haydon.

Khuram Butt has been named as one of the three men who carried out the terror attack on London Bridge and Borough
Image:
Khuram Butt tried to hire a bigger vehicle but his payment did not go through
Among the evidence were plastic water bottles, like those used to create the fake suicide belts each of the terrorists was wearing during the attack.

The new details come as police made two further arrests in connection with the attack, bringing the number to seven.

A 28-year-old man was arrested at around 2am on Saturday in Barking, east London, on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism.

Earlier on Saturday, a 27-year-old man was arrested during a raid in Ilford, east London. He was also held on suspicion of preparing terrorist acts.

Floral tributes lay in Potters Fields Park following the June 3rd terror attack on June 6, 2017 in London, England. Seven people were killed and at least 48 injured in terror attacks on London Bridge and Borough Market on June 3rd. Three attackers were shot dead by armed police. (Photo by Jack Taylor/Getty Images)
Image:
Eight people were killed in the attack
Police say they have interviewed 262 witnesses, from 19 countries.

They believe there are more who haven't come forward and they are urging them to do so.

They are also warning the public of other similar attacks and want to hear from anyone suspicious of behaviour around the use of hire vehicles, fuel, knives and mobile phones.

Met Police commissioner Cressida Dick said she needed Londoners to be "really alert".

She said: "We know that the attackers hired a vehicle that very day.

"So we need, for example, people who are hiring vans and lorries out to just think about who these people are and if you have any concerns at all to contact us on the anti-terrorist hotline."

Ms Dick added that the force will "step up a gear and do our level best to stop any further attacks".

Posted in: LONDON BRIDGE ATTACK

Just imagine the extra carnage had he had enough on his card to hire a truck.

[Vicky.]

Yeah I heard this earlier about the lorry, absolutely terrifying

I don't think this will help matters though?

"So we need, for example, people who are hiring vans and lorries out to just think about who these people are and if you have any concerns at all to contact us on the anti-terrorist hotline."

All thats going to happen there is everytime a Muslim tries to rent a vehicle, they will get reported.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Just imagine the extra carnage had he had enough on his card to hire a truck.

What a half-wit - trying to rent a van to commit an act or terrorism without enough money on his card to pay for it. You couldn't make it up.

[Cherry Christmas]

They obviously weren't expecting to be shot so quickly given they had petrol bombs to use, well done to the police