[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Caravan

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Why wasn't Tom labelled aggressive by other HMs for slamming all the stuff off the kitchen counter in a previous episode?

I labelled Tom aggressive for this as it was an aggressive act

I didn't see this slipper thing but the bag thing was clearly NOT aggressive. However the way Sukhvinder reacted to it was aggressive.

Imran comes across aggressive most of the time when he's doing Sukhs bidding tbh.

Kayleigh is aggressive in general (when arguing especially. was much worse on EOTB) and also..I did think Kayleigh was black? :S

And both Deborah and Hannah come across aggressive a lot of the time They shout a hell of a lot and go OTT. Sometimes it seems they are spitting words at people. If anyone else went on like that they would be labelled aggressive. And there would be no problem labeling aggressiveness as aggressive. But for some reason everyone is meant to ignore it the person being aggressive is a black woman? Yes its a stereotype of black women, but if its happening in front of our eyes, its not wrong to call it out. I don't get it tbh.

[azi]

Calling a black women "aggressive" is offensive. That's it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by azi

Calling a black women "aggressive" is offensive. That's it.

Not if they ARE aggressive

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not if they ARE aggressive

in this instance though other housemates have threatened others, swore at others, thrown stuff around in a rage, chanelle hit Kieran just the other day but Rebecca brands Hannah as aggressive just for raising her voice? I'm not saying Rebecca is racist, in her head she probably wasn't thinking of race at all but I can understand why hannah felt that had she been white she wouldn't of been perceived to be as aggressive.

[Slevin]

i get her point but i did find them being somewhat aggressive. hell a lot of them have been. i could be wrong but i only remember seeing Deborah, Hannah & Sukhvinder being called aggressive by other HM. maybe Kayleigh as well? why in the hell didnt anyone call Lotan aggressive then if those two are called that. bunch of bs that is. perhaps being apart of the so called clique. Lotan didnt need to stir that ship up more to begin with. Hannah was done, eating her food and that doucher came in muddling his words back & forth saying he should/shouldnt say nothing & couldnt make up his mind whether to walk out or not. so he goes ahead & starts being passive aggressive & **** blew up some more.

[chuff me dizzy]

How many times has she flashed the race card ? and how pathetic was Suhk sat crying .....Lets not forget the sisters were born in ENGLAND to Nigerian parents, in her vt ,she bragged she had won Miss Nigeria ( was there only her who entered ) and she she said "I won Miss Nigeria for my country, and won it in the UK " so who's the racist here ?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I still dont get why Hannah over reacted in the first place, her pulling the race card really annoyed me, Why have we not seen this tension between Lotan and Hannah before, I mean Lotan nomianted her for a similar reason that she involves herself in everything, which we have failed to see so far, the only times the sisters have argued back is if someone was arguing with them. So Lotans excuse is flawed, and he needs to look in the mirror when he accuses of others of getting involved when he is the main one sticking his nose in everything to look like the hero.

Both Lotan and Hannah can go for all I care, her over-reaction and his fakeness.

[snail69]

I can't say too many people are surprised it's happened, or are they? It's almost like Big Brother set it up so that it would but I hate conspiracies so I ain't even going to bother with that.

Being mixed race (my dad is African American) it's embarrassing to see people pull that card so quickly. It makes them look weak and desperate for attention. I can't support her at all now which is disappointing as I really had high hopes for both her and Deborah.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by snail69

I can't say too many people are surprised it's happened, or are they? It's almost like Big Brother set it up so that it would but I hate conspiracies so I ain't even going to bother with that.

Being mixed race (my dad is African American) it's embarrassing to see people pull that card so quickly. It makes them look weak and desperate for attention. I can't support her at all now which is disappointing as I really had high hopes for both her and Deborah.

The race card is the most popular card in the BB house, always has been

[Slevin]

i would say the bully card is the most popular these days

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Slevin

i would say the bully card is the most popular these days

We have 4 non whites in the house this year,they have ALL thrown the race card already and were only 10 days in ,Sukh and Imran threw it in 1st couple of days

[bots]

There is perception of being aggressive through accent and then there is actual aggression identified by content, delivery and body language. My reading of it was a tick in the box for all 3, it had nothing to do with anything else

[ethanjames]

well she isn't wrong? if she was white she would be labelled as a queen but because she is black she is labelled as aggressive

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

well she isn't wrong? if she was white she would be labelled as a queen but because she is black she is labelled as aggressive

Its the opposite on here, always has been

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its the opposite on here, always has been

But on twitter that's how its labelled and its actually quite annoying? I do get where you are coming from though I don't think she should have brought up the race card but her point wasn't wrong

[MrWong]

Did Rebecca label Kieran, Kayleigh, Tom or Chanelle aggressive?

She threw it out quick enough to label Hannah.

I'm not surpised at Hannah's reaction.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Did Rebecca label Kieran, Kayleigh, Tom or Chanelle aggressive?

She threw it out quick enough to label Hannah.

I'm not surpised at Hannah's reaction.

Yeah that's the point, it almost seemed like she was waiting to be able to do that, like how quick she was to say "Oh here we go" when Sukhvinder mentioned racism (in reply to Rebecca bringing it up I might add)

[starry]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

well she isn't wrong? if she was white she would be labelled as a queen but because she is black she is labelled as aggressive

This is definitely bull****, because I couldn't stand Nikki for example.

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by starry

This is definitely bull****, because I couldn't stand Nikki for example.

the British population (mostly) think differently. its not just on big brother of course the same case can be found with other shows like the x factor to an extent although sara was the better singer matt won. though not everyone thinks that way of course a large majority sadly does

[starry]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

the British population (mostly) think differently. its not just on big brother of course the same case can be found with other shows like the x factor to an extent although sara was the better singer matt won. though not everyone thinks that way of course a large majority sadly does

I'm not sure most of the BB audience actually likes Nikki, she was voted out after all. Obviously she has some fans as well, but I think it's the promotion of her by Endemol that has helped her more than anything. They have really built her up. I can't speak for X-Factor as I don't watch it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

the British population (mostly) think differently. its not just on big brother of course the same case can be found with other shows like the x factor to an extent although sara was the better singer matt won. though not everyone thinks that way of course a large majority sadly does

Bake off

Strictly

Masterchef

Please add Sara was a better singer IN YOUR OPINION ,but not in the judges opinion

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Bake off

Strictly

Masterchef

Please add Sara was a better singer IN YOUR OPINION ,but not in the judges opinion

Bake off winner isn't chosen by the public if it was it would be a different story. typically poc aren't usually voted in though there are exceptions of course
and overall the judges did seem to think she was the better singer as they all said (apart from Nicole) that she should win and simon seemed very pissed when she didn't win. they coy=uld just be saying that to everyone

[starry]

It can feel in some cultures that quite a few (not saying all) that think that raising your voice will get you somewhere with people. Some might say that you should accept that and put up with it, but it is really annoying.

[Vicky.]

They came across aggressive. Both sisters.

You cannot be aggressive, be called out on it then moan that you are only called aggressive because you are black. No love, you were called aggressive as you were aggressive. Simples.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

They came across aggressive. Both sisters.

You cannot be aggressive, be called out on it then moan that you are only called aggressive because you are black. No love, you were called aggressive as you were aggressive. Simples.