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Old 14-06-2017, 10:12 PM #76
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I don't get why race is such a touchy subject, black people are more than happy to talk about it but white people get really defensive over it, shouldn't it be the other way round?
Like how are we meant to get anywhere if every time a black person wants to talk about their experience they reaction they get is "STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD YOU'RE WRONG RACISM DOESN'T EXIST"
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People might not like hearing it but Hannah and Deborah were being called aggressive because they're black.

Was they being argumentative? Yes, but was they being aggressive? For me no, I saw more aggression from Chanelle and Kieran the night before but conveniently Lotan and Rebecca never commented on that from what we've seen.
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Don't think she was playing 'the race card' as such either, just observed something and jumped to conclusions but I don't think she was vying for sympathy and calling the others racist.
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Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.
Lmao when was Makosi ever aggressive?
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Don't think she was playing 'the race card' as such either, just observed something and jumped to conclusions but I don't think she was vying for sympathy and calling the others racist.
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People might not like hearing it but Hannah and Deborah were being called aggressive because they're black.

Was they being argumentative? Yes, but was they being aggressive? For me no, I saw more aggression from Chanelle and Kieran the night before but conveniently Lotan and Rebecca never commented on that from what we've seen.
I agree. No one is saying that the housemates are racist but are we really going ignore the fact that racial stereotypes sometimes effect how we perceive people.
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Mess @ Kosi being aggressive. She was just a wind up merchant
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Where does this stereotype stem from?What started it?
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lt jump back 3 days, did i not predict this would happen ?????????
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Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.

It is all rather subjective.

But you have to ask yourself. Why such a stereotype exists? Was it just made up? Hannah seems well aware of it as she is the one that brought up race.
How is Makosi aggressive sis?

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Can anyone name a black female BB contestant who wasn't aggressive?

Genuine question. I can't remember one.
Makosi, Vanessa from the same year, Sylvia was more of a bitchy Housemate than argumentative/aggressive in BB9, Heaven was a victim of arguments in BB12 rather than seeking them. And tbf Deborah and Hannah have only had one argument so far.

That's about it from what I can think of.
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but she's right she's going to be voted out and disliked because she's aggressive and black sorry bout it

we've seen it multiple times on this show
anyone aggressive black or white gets voted off, no one likes aggressive people no matter what colour they are
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anyone aggressive black or white gets voted off, no one likes aggressive people no matter what colour they are
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I see where they're coming from tbf black women are always labelled aggressive the minute they have an argument, way quicker than the white girls would be
don't agree, can't stand anyone aggressive, aggressive has no colour
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They used aggression to try and convey they were not aggressive.
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Oh and let's not forget Traci Bingham if we're adding CBB to the mix
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As soon as it happened I just knew someone was going to complain about the 'race card'. I just knew it.
because it gets on some peoples tits when colour comes into it, like it or not some coloured people have chips on their shoulder about colour and bring the subject up themselves, even that black bloke on BBots said she shouldn't have done that
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Makosi, Vanessa from the same year, Sylvia was more of a bitchy Housemate than argumentative/aggressive in BB9, Heaven was a victim of arguments in BB12 rather than seeking them. And tbf Deborah and Hannah have only had one argument so far.

That's about it from what I can think of.
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don't agree, can't stand anyone aggressive, aggressive has no colour
Doesn't really matter whether you agree that it exists or not, it's like debating whether or not air exists.

Black people will oftwn be deemed aggressive far quicker than white people. A prime example in this series alone is Kieran, a white male, that literally insinuated that he might have been violent towards Chanelle if she was a man didn't get a reaction from BB or other HMs but now after one blowout, the sisters will likely be tarred with the 'aggressive' label both inside the house and out.

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literally a black girl has one bad day and they are evicted to boos, Helen terrorises her housemates all series and is given the crown.... hmm
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Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.

It is all rather subjective.

But you have to ask yourself. Why such a stereotype exists? Was it just made up? Hannah seems well aware of it as she is the one that brought up race.
In what world was Makosi ever aggressive? She even stayed calm when Saskia said "people like you always have a chip on their shoulder" to HER FACE.
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That's the thing though, she never called anyone racist. She said as a black girl she's more likely to be stereotyped as aggressive than the other girls in the house, which is true.
it's not true in my view, people need to stop seeing colour and seeing people instead, people of colour included
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It's funny how Makosi is deemed as aggressive when Saskia was literally more ABW than the actual two black women in the BB6 house
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I agree. No one is saying that the housemates are racist but are we really going ignore the fact that racial stereotypes sometimes effect how we perceive people.
Stereotypes exist, and for people to deny that Hannah has been stereotyped is wrong imo.
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Doesn't really matter whether you agree that it exists or not, it's like debating whether or not air exists.

Black people will often be deemed aggressive far quicker than white people. A prime example in this series alone is Kieran, a white male, that literally insinuated that he might have been violent towards Chanelle if she was a man didn't get a reaction from BB or other HMs but now after one blowout, the sisters will likely be tarred with the 'aggressive' label both inside the house and out.
There is defo an "angry/agressive black women" stereotype which is prevalent which ironically even some have bought up in this thread which is clearly what she was referring to. While she was shouting and being emotional it came across as more fustration than agression but I know some will disagree with me, everyone sees things differently.
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