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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
Glad you're friends are ok BL.....its amazing how communities band together...anger is bound to happen but things will settle down again. Good on you for helping for so long
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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
You were there and did your bit you should be really proud of yourself, I really hope your community can recover and all those now homeless are adequately housed in the area ASAP and a full investigation is carried out too.
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Good on you Leon, shouldn't have to to witness these sort of these in a situation that was so easily avoidable, the anger is understandable taking everything into account and if what has been said is true then their is blood on the hands of certain people and need to be held accountable for it.

Their was some guy called Piers before speaking about it saying he knew the guy who wrote the blog that was posted raising concerns about safety issues and said the community was pretty tight nit because they have had to come together to discuss the issues about the flats before this even happened,
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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
Glad you are ok BL and awful for you to see and hear all that,kudos toyou for helping those people too.
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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
It must have an horrific experience Leon, glad your friends got out and well done for helping
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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
Glad to hear you're safe Leon.. good on you for volunteering and helping out those affected
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Good that you and your friends are okay, the anger is understandable
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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
You should be proud of yourself what a lovely thing to do
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Good to see you are ok BL, the way the community has pulled together is heartwarming, fantastic of you to help and do everything you could.
I can understand the anger setting in, people have seen and heard things that will stay with them the rest of their lives.
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This is just unbelievable and horrifying. RIP to those poor souls who have lost their lives.

BrotherLeon, you're a saint.
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Incredibly sad. I've spent the whole day from about 4am volunteering and making constant runs to Sainsbury's to bring stuff that may be needed with my Fiancé and her sister. Hearing the screams and children being thrown will stay with me forever though.

The spirit shown was real heartwarming though. The last hour or so has slightly changed and there seems more anger around and people taking it out on each other, but on the whole the heart shown has been amazing.

We personally know someone that lives there, but him and his girlfriend in a panic decided to ignore the advice to stay where they are and ran down when it started to look bad. So lucky.
It's good what you're doing Brother Leon, I hope that you're okay.
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It's truly heart-warming too see such a diverse community sticking together and helping each other in such horrendous circumstances. They're saying that the help they're getting from local people and local businesses is incredible!

THIS is Great Britain at its very best and it gives me a real sense of pride to be part of it.
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These huge tower blocks have never been anything but a bad idea. They stick old people on the top floors and they become isolated. People with small children are no better off. No building where people live should be above the length of the longest fire brigade ladder. Those poor souls.
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I agree Jenny.
Imagine older or even disabled people (they mentioned a wheelchair bound resident of the block yesterday) stuck up on anything above the second storey!
They probably never leave their flats and if they don't have relatives or care-workers (which, as we know, are very difficult to even get these days) then they're inevitably going to become completely isolated and neglected. Very, very sad indeed.

It does sound like there's a fantastic community of people living in this block wholook out for their neighbours but you can bet this isn't the case in a lot of these tower blocks.
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Apparently there's 4000 of these Tower Blocks throught the UK.

Theresa May's new advisor Gavin Barwell was tasked with reviewing Tower Block safety and fire regulations but chose to sit on these reccomendations and the Cons even attempted to roll back housing safety regulations to cut costs. That's on top of Boris championing and even suceeding in closing a number of Fire Stations across London.

If they hadn't been somewhat rumbled because of their recent election balls-up and they'd in fact got the massive landslide result that was thankfully denied can you imagine the crapthey'd have steam-rollered in ? And we would have been completely and utterly powerless to stop them.

Thank **** enough people put their votes elsewhere. As bad as we thought it could have been i don't think we even had a clue about just how bad it would have actually turned out.

This cannot be allowed to happen again!!! They just had a fire safety officer on the BBC News and he had some of the insulation (looked kinda' like polystyrene) that's put under the fascia boards that were on this tower block and he lit it and it was like a one of those gas living room fires once it was lit. How on Earth was this stuff ever passed as suitable for use ??

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Theresa May's new advisor Gavin Barwell was tasked with reviewing Tower Block safety and fire regulations but chose to sit on these reccomendations and the Cons even attempted to roll back housing safety regulations to cut costs. That's on top of Boris championing and even suceeding in closing a number of Fire Stations across London.

If they hadn't been somewhat rumbled because of their recent election balls-up and they'd in fact got the massive landslide result that was thankfully denied can you imagine the crapthey'd have steam-rollered in ? And we would have been completely and utterly powerless to stop them.

Thank **** enough people put their votes elsewhere. As bad as we thought it could have been i don't think we even had a clue about just how bad it would have actually turned out.

This cannot be allowed to happen again!!! They just had a fire safety officer on the BBC News and he had some of the insulation (looked kinda' like polystyrene) that's put under the fascia boards that were on this tower block and he lit it and it was like a one of those gas living room fires once it was lit. How on Earth was this stuff ever passed as suitable for use ??
Yes. I hope they review the safety of all these block of flats. At least it would prevent other fires.
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Theresa May's new advisor Gavin Barwell was tasked with reviewing Tower Block safety and fire regulations but chose to sit on these reccomendations and the Cons even attempted to roll back housing safety regulations to cut costs. That's on top of Boris championing and even suceeding in closing a number of Fire Stations across London.

If they hadn't been somewhat rumbled because of their recent election balls-up and they'd in fact got the massive landslide result that was thankfully denied can you imagine the crapthey'd have steam-rollered in ? And we would have been completely and utterly powerless to stop them.

Thank **** enough people put their votes elsewhere. As bad as we thought it could have been i don't think we even had a clue about just how bad it would have actually turned out.

This cannot be allowed to happen again!!! They just had a fire safety officer on the BBC News and he had some of the insulation (looked kinda' like polystyrene) that's put under the fascia boards that were on this tower block and he lit it and it was like a one of those gas living room fires once it was lit. How on Earth was this stuff ever passed as suitable for use ??
Oh,here we go !!!
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If it's what's being reported as part of the story about the on-going Grenfell Tower Block disaster report on the News (real BBC News!) do younot think it's relevant to discuss ?
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