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Old 20-06-2017, 06:20 PM #1
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Being a showmancer does deserve derision imo, especially when it's not funny, or when it's done from the first couple of days of entering the house.

But if people want a Love Island spin-off then go for it.
But, the fact is that most hardcore BB fans see showmance even when it isn't there, at the first whiff of one human being attracted to another human. They are so paranoid about it that they condemn it as such out of hand.

It doesn't seem to register that anyone could have an instant attraction and genuinely get starry eyed over another HM.

Ellie just strikes me as one of those types. She probably falls deeply in love three times a year. I don't think it's malicious or nasty. I think she just leads with emotions and gets invested super fast. I have known people like that in RL, crashing from one new love (or, rather, infatuation) to the next.

I get the derision for showmances, they are cynical and manipulative, but it's equally cynical to automatically see every HM that falls for another HM as one.

'Funny' is subjective. I do find Ellie funny. I think she is the only one in the house since Arthur left that has been.

But, all that aside, if some people are going to stop at the 'showmance' judgment and hate on her because of that one perceived element, then I do find that a bit sad.

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I think she genuinely likes him, you can't fake that when you are as pissed as she was
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I think she genuinely likes him, you can't fake that when you are as pissed as she was
I do as well. She's just the type that falls hard and fast.

Her awkwardness and emotion came across as very genuine when she was apologising to Lotan as well.

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But, the fact is that most hardcore BB fans see showmance even when it isn't there, at the first whiff of one human being attracted to another human. They are so paranoid about it that they condemn it as such out of hand.

It doesn't seem to register that anyone could have an instant attraction and genuinely get starry eyed over another HM.

Ellie just strikes me as one of those types. She probably falls deeply in love three times a year. I don't think it's malicious or nasty. I think she just leads with emotions and gets invested super fast. I have known people like that in RL, crashing from one new love to the next.

I get the derision for showmances, they are cynical and manipulative, but it's equally cynical to automatically see every HM that falls for another HM as one these days.

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But, the fact is that most hardcore BB fans see showmance even when it isn't there, at the first whiff of one human being attracted to another human. They are so paranoid about it that they condemn it as such out of hand.

It doesn't seem to register that anyone could have an instant attraction and genuinely get starry eyed over another HM.

Ellie just strikes me as one of those types. She probably falls deeply in love three times a year. I don't think it's malicious or nasty. I think she just leads with emotions and gets invested super fast. I have known people like that in RL, crashing from one new love (or, rather, infatuation) to the next.

I get the derision for showmances, they are cynical and manipulative, but it's equally cynical to automatically see every HM that falls for another HM as one.

'Funny' is subjective. I do find Ellie funny. I think she is the only one in the house since Arthur left that has been.

But, all that aside, if some people are going to stop at the 'showmance' judgment and hate on her because of that one perceived element, then I do find that a bit sad.
I'm not talking about Ellie as an individual being funny or unfunny, I'm on about the tedious showmance.

And if what you're saying about Ellie is true (which no offense I doubt that this is the case with her) it's more lust than love.

In fact I'm surprised we don't see more lustful behaviour on BB with them trapped in the house 24/7, it's the "we're pretending to be in a Romeo & Juliet love story" that I find deeply annoying.
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And if what you're saying about Ellie is true (which no offense I doubt that this is the case with her) it's more lust than love.

In fact I'm surprised we don't see more lustful behaviour on BB with them trapped in the house 24/7, it's the "we're pretending to be in a Romeo & Juliet love story" that I find deeply annoying.
Again, I think the showmance thing is just your perception of her behaviour. I don't think she sees it as that at all. but, i explained all that that above, I guess.

I would say it started off with lust, yep, then moved swiftly to infatuation (a word I used in my post). Is it 'love'? Probably not, but differently people use the word in different ways anyhow, I guess. either way, she has clearly genuinely fallen for him. People do the same thing on holidays etc all the time.

I do believe her obsession with him is real though and not a cynical attempt to manipulate the public.

I think the showmance thing is a knee jerk reaction these days. I think hardcore fans are just paranoid about it and see it in everything without taking the actual HM and their character into account.

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