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Brillopad · 21-06-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

This entire election just seems fake. Like an elaborate practical joke. A tiny party demanding 2 billion from the largest party so they can both have power. That doesnt sound real! The largest party contemplating using the most backward party that would serve no purpose but alienating a large proportion of their supporters doesnt sound real!

Just call another snap and give Corbyn the win imo.

They won't call an election unless they have to and it is not on the cards ATM. And even if they do there are no guarantees Corbyn will get it. A lot of people are disgusted how he used the tower tragedy to help himself - we will see won't we.

Hopefully more are waking up to him and even more will do so by the time of another election, if there is one.

the truth · 21-06-2017, 04:24 PM

it would be mad to have yet another election now, weve had 2 general elections and 2 referendums in the last few years and we have brexit started 3 days ago... The hysterical fleet street media always made a big drama out of everything, that idiot laura kunnssberg on the pitiful bbc news is a classic example. what an idiot she is ..endless exagerated soap operatic reports from downing street..screaming down the road at the prime minsiter? so shes 8 short of a total majority, so what? many have been before many will be again. it will get worked out...Lets just keep calm and carry on

Brillopad · 21-06-2017, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

it would be mad to have yet another election now, weve had 2 general elections and 2 referendums in the last few years and we have brexit started 3 days ago... The hysterical fleet street media always made a big drama out of everything, that idiot laura kunnssberg on the pitiful bbc news is a classic example. what an idiot she is ..endless exagerated soap operatic reports from downing street..screaming down the road at the prime minsiter? so shes 8 short of a total majority, so what? many have been before many will be again. it will get worked out...Lets just keep calm and carry on

Agreed.

Withano · 21-06-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

They won't call an election unless they have to and it is not on the cards ATM. And even if they do there are no guarantees Corbyn will get it. A lot of people are disgusted how he used the tower tragedy to help himself - we will see won't we.

Hopefully more are waking up to him and even more will do so by the time of another election, if there is one.

Nah, he'd get the landslide victory. Tories havent stopped ****ing up for about 15 months running now, most specifically in the last 3. It wont be called, but it should be. As if 5 years of a minority government/ 2bn wasted on a fascist party is useful to anybody

the truth · 21-06-2017, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Nah, he'd get the landslide victory. Tories havent stopped ****ing up for about 15 months running now, most specifically in the last 3. It wont be called, but it should be. As if 5 years of a minority government/ 2bn wasted on a fascist party is useful to anybody

lol no he really wouldnt the result would be almost identical , its only been a few weeks, even the brits arent that fickle

DemolitionRed · 21-06-2017, 05:37 PM

Even most Tory Brits are worried about this deal with DUP because its not just about making up the numbers, its about the role of the government in the Northern Ireland peace process. When that peace process is in trouble, as it is at the moment, the British and Irish government are the mediator between the unionists and the nationalists. How can they remain the mediator when the unionists are now being brought into government?

She called this election because she thought Labour were weak and she was going to get a landslide but what was designed to expose Labour's weaknesses has profoundly exposed hers... and the country's not stupid. The Tory party have become a joke from their own making and if we aren't careful, we are going to end up as a failed state and all this because the Tories are too busy looking out for their own party... hanging onto number 10 like barnacles instead of getting out their and looking after their nation. And now, to top it all, they want to destroy what John Major and Tony Blair put in place... the peace process in Northern Ireland. Tory or not, we should all be fcuking angry about this.

Withano · 21-06-2017, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

lol no he really wouldnt the result would be almost identical , its only been a few weeks, even the brits arent that fickle

It would be almost identical if there were little to no changes between the day before the election and right now... but if youve been keeping up, you would know that a feck load has changed. Obviously that would be reflected in a new snap.

King Gizzard · 21-06-2017, 06:29 PM

Brillopad · 21-06-2017, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Even most Tory Brits are worried about this deal with DUP because its not just about making up the numbers, its about the role of the government in the Northern Ireland peace process. When that peace process is in trouble, as it is at the moment, the British and Irish government are the mediator between the unionists and the nationalists. How can they remain the mediator when the unionists are now being brought into government?

She called this election because she thought Labour were weak and she was going to get a landslide but what was designed to expose Labour's weaknesses has profoundly exposed hers... and the country's not stupid. The Tory party have become a joke from their own making and if we aren't careful, we are going to end up as a failed state and all this because the Tories are too busy looking out for their own party... hanging onto number 10 like barnacles instead of getting out their and looking after their nation. And now, to top it all, they want to destroy what John Major and Tony Blair put in place... the peace process in Northern Ireland. Tory or not, we should all be fcuking angry about this.

Interesting how you fail to mention that the SDLP, throughout negotiations and the peace process, took the Labour whip in Parliament. How convenient you fail to harp on about how that weakened the peace process. Or that Gordon Brown also tried to make a deal with the DUP in 2010.

One rule for the Tories and another for Labour.

Beso · 21-06-2017, 06:44 PM

The queens outfit is trending in conspiracists circles because it resembled the eu flag

DemolitionRed · 21-06-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

Interesting how you fail to mention that the SDLP, throughout negotiations and the peace process, took the Labour whip in Parliament. How convenient you fail to harp on about how that weakened the peace process. Or that Gordon Brown also tried to make a deal with the DUP in 2010.

One rule for the Tories and another for Labour.

Because I'm talking about the present, not the past. I'm in the here and now because this isn't a tit for tat, my teams better than your team playground squabble, its about the future of Britain and the future of Northern Ireland NOW.

DemolitionRed · 21-06-2017, 06:57 PM

And you know what. I don't give a flying siht what party runs this country providing that party can progress and do better by its people and the people of Northern Ireland.

Brillopad · 21-06-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Because I'm talking about the present, not the past. I'm in the here and now because this isn't a tit for tat, my teams better than your team playground squabble, its about the future of Britain and the future of Northern Ireland NOW.

If it didn't affect the peace process then, why should it now - unless those Corbynites out there want to intentionally make a big thing about it to stir up a hornet's nest they wouldn't have welcomed back then - an underhand political tactic, down and dirty. Still amounts to double standards.

Shaun · 21-06-2017, 07:12 PM

A true coalition of chaos

hope it's resolved soon xxx

joeysteele · 21-06-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

It would be almost identical if there were little to no changes between the day before the election and right now... but if youve been keeping up, you would know that a feck load has changed. Obviously that would be reflected in a new snap.

I think another election in the next few months would result in Labour being the largest party.

I can easily see around another 30 seats going Labour now.
The momentum is with Labour, hopefully their own MPs see that too.

King Gizzard · 21-06-2017, 09:26 PM

Kizzy · 21-06-2017, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

The DUP asked for 2 billion didn't they? They are some expensive votes the tories will be buying from the funds from the public money tree

Kizzy · 22-06-2017, 10:39 AM

Sorry DUP you can't have your 2 billion we have 600 tower blocks to reclad

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7802406.html

joeysteele · 22-06-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

The DUP asked for 2 billion didn't they? They are some expensive votes the tories will be buying from the funds from the public money tree

It's obscene in my view.

Brillopad · 22-06-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think another election in the next few months would result in Labour being the largest party.

I can easily see around another 30 seats going Labour now.
The momentum is with Labour, hopefully their own MPs see that too.

I think that is wishful thinking. Do the remainers realise how many they have pi**ed off calling for a second referendum with their arrogant claims that people didn't understand what they were voting for.

What they really mean is that it is not what they want. I think many who voted to remain have been put off by such attitudes and would now vote leave.

Kizzy · 22-06-2017, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think that is wishful thinking. Do the remainers realise how many they have pi**ed off calling for a second referendum with their arrogant claims that people didn't understand what they were voting for.

What they really mean is that it is not what they want. I think many who voted to remain have been put off by such attitudes and would now vote leave.

Wasn't that lib dems in reference to brexit?...How is that a response to a post about Labours position in the GE?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-poli...mber-of-public

Vicky. · 22-06-2017, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

What they really mean is that it is not what they want. I think many who voted to remain have been put off by such attitudes and would now vote leave.

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think that is wishful thinking.

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