[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

A clique is a group of people who stick together....

Raph, Deborah and Hannah are their own little clique. They are no different...in fact they are almost worse because they just bitch about the other housemates...they constantly look miserable and they are depressing to watch
The other group...however shallow and tiresome in their conversation at least seem to have some fun together.

Both cliques have nothing entertaining to offer...

Ive never seen any of Lotans lot run back bitching like Raph has done

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by sampvt

People like Raph cant hack playing out with real men, he would rather surround himself with his own little bitchy group. The big group are having fun while Raph is executing his master game plan that we all think has sprung a very bad leak indeed.

Its not often we agree Sammy but in this we do

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

A clique is a group of people who stick together....

Raph, Deborah and Hannah are their own little clique. They are no different...in fact they are almost worse because they just bitch about the other housemates...they constantly look miserable and they are depressing to watch
The other group...however shallow and tiresome in their conversation at least seem to have some fun together.

Both cliques have nothing entertaining to offer...

This my thinking too,I had such high hopes for Raph,I don't dislike him now, I just think his friendship with Chanelle has kinda spoilt his chances as she would probably win over him now, and he is stuck to her like a limpet,shame as he had potential,aand as for this so called 'Lotans group' they are up themselves and stupid sometimes but they do have a laugh and are quite lively,not much to choose from this time round but leaning towards one of fun team.

[Epic.]

Since when was Raph's group the horrible clique?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Since when was Raph's group the horrible clique?

Since they tried to suck the life out of the house

[Vanessa]

I much prefer Raph, Hannah and Chanelle. At least they aren't up themselves.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Since when was Raph's group the horrible clique?

Indeed. Raph group is called The Outsiders. Lotan group is The Clique.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

A clique is a group of people who stick together....

Raph, Deborah and Hannah are their own little clique. They are no different...in fact they are almost worse because they just bitch about the other housemates...they constantly look miserable and they are depressing to watch
The other group...however shallow and tiresome in their conversation at least seem to have some fun together.

Both cliques have nothing entertaining to offer...

Indeed. I don't think there are 'groups' as such...however if I had to chose I would say Raph Deborah and Hannah were the clique while everyone else just tends to get on with whatever they are doing. Raph Deborah and Hannah are free to join in with the others if they chose to (and they often do) but if they chose not to, then its not the fault of the other 'group'. These 3 are isolating themselves. I kind of wish BB would do some kind of task where they reveal how much Raph has been twisting whats said about the sisters so they can find out just how manipulative he is as I think without Raph in their ear constantly they would be mixing more and having fun. However I hate tasks where BB does the whole 'who said what' to cause arguments so thats a bit hypocritical of me

I also wish Raph would take off his 'gameplaying' head and start to actually enjoy himself. He seems constantly on edge and appears to sit waiting for some gossip to carry about rather than actually enjoy himself

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed. I don't think there are 'groups' as such...however if I had to chose I would say Raph Deborah and Hannah were the clique while everyone else just tends to get on with whatever they are doing. Raph Deborah and Hannah are free to join in with the others if they chose to (and they often do) but if they chose not to, then its not the fault of the other 'group'. These 3 are isolating themselves. I kind of wish BB would do some kind of task where they reveal how much Raph has been twisting whats said about the sisters so they can find out just how manipulative he is as I think without Raph in their ear constantly they would be mixing more and having fun. However I hate tasks where BB does the whole 'who said what' to cause arguments so thats a bit hypocritical of me

I also wish Raph would take off his 'gameplaying' head and start to actually enjoy himself. He seems constantly on edge and appears to sit waiting for some gossip to carry about rather than actually enjoy himself

Ive said the same but in regards to Raph, I honestly do believe he is like this in real life and knows no other way to interact.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Since when was Raph's group the horrible clique?

Since raph starting bitching.

[karezza]

Raph's deviousness and the sisters anger is creating the divide.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by karezza

Raph's deviousness and the sisters anger is creating the divide.

You cant lump deborah in with hannah cause she is nothing like hannah.....little note on deborah.....3 immune hms on last nominations and she didnt receive any votes.....shes going to go far in the house...maybe even the final.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You cant lump deborah in with hannah cause she is nothing like hannah.....little note on deborah.....3 immune hms on last nominations and she didnt receive any votes.....shes going to go far in the house...maybe even the final.

Yes, Deborah seems to get on with most. A lot of people lump the sisters in together when they seem totally different.

[sampvt]

Debs puts out to be the voice of reason whilst hannah breathes flames but when hannah is going off on one, debs is right there waiting in case she gets rinsed. Trust me they are peas in a pod.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This my thinking too,I had such high hopes for Raph,I don't dislike him now, I just think his friendship with Chanelle has kinda spoilt his chances as she would probably win over him now, and he is stuck to her like a limpet,shame as he had potential,aand as for this so called 'Lotans group' they are up themselves and stupid sometimes but they do have a laugh and are quite lively,not much to choose from this time round but leaning towards one of fun team.

Ralph's friendship with Chanelle is bizarre...she represents everything he despises.
I am hoping that Charlotte and Kieron come into their own. They both seem decent people but they don't do much. Thought Kieron was disloyal to Rebecca...but he could still come good.
...or Savannah could be one to watch..but early days.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, Deborah seems to get on with most. A lot of people lump the sisters in together when they seem totally different.

Debbie seems to be the stronger of the 2...very honourable of her as well to always be on the look out for her sister.

She probably knows the size of her gob so will be keeping a look out like all big sisters should.