[Vicky.]

No. The less producer manipulation then better tbh. Though I would like Hannah and Deborah to find out quite how much they are being manipulated as I think without Raph in their ears constantly they would be enjoying their time a bit more.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No. The less producer manipulation then better tbh. Though I would like Hannah and Deborah to find out quite how much they are being manipulated as I think without Raph in their ears constantly they would be enjoying their time a bit more.

Why? Deborah is a bit meh, but I think Hannah is a great housemate and would be even if Raph wasn't involved. She's got the guts to stand up to Lotan and she's very opinionated.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Why? Deborah is a bit meh, but I think Hannah is a great housemate and would be even if Raph wasn't involved. She's got the guts to stand up to Lotan and she's very opinionated.

Raph sometimes gives info but twists it though and it's a little shady because Hannah and Chanelle are not bothered by confrontation and it could backfire on them.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Why? Deborah is a bit meh, but I think Hannah is a great housemate and would be even if Raph wasn't involved. She's got the guts to stand up to Lotan and she's very opinionated.

Because he is the one telling them the others are bitching. When a lot of the time they aren't and hes adding his own bits to it or putting a different spin on whats actually said/done. Thus making them more and more defensive and more miserable.

I mean, last night was ridiculous when he was so sure that the water had been done deliberately despite not even seeing it When we DID see it and it clearly was not deliberate at all. He is winding them up (and Chanelle to a lesser extent) to make them kick off and thus get attention off him for nominations and onto them. Its a decent gameplay tbh, but hes being too obvious about it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Because he is the one telling them the others are bitching. When a lot of the time they aren't and hes adding his own bits to it or putting a different spin on whats actually said/done. Thus making them more and more defensive and more miserable.

I mean, last night was ridiculous when he was so sure that the water had been done deliberately despite not even seeing it When we DID see it and it clearly was not deliberate at all. He is winding them up (and Chanelle to a lesser extent) to make them kick off and thus get attention off him for nominations and onto them. Its a decent gameplay tbh, but hes being too obvious about it.

True, but Lotan and co should not be messing around on her bed.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Because he is the one telling them the others are bitching. When a lot of the time they aren't and hes adding his own bits to it or putting a different spin on whats actually said/done. Thus making them more and more defensive and more miserable.

I mean, last night was ridiculous when he was so sure that the water had been done deliberately despite not even seeing it When we DID see it and it clearly was not deliberate at all. He is winding them up (and Chanelle to a lesser extent) to make them kick off and thus get attention off him for nominations and onto them. Its a decent gameplay tbh, but hes being too obvious about it.

He bare faced lied when he said Lotan had said "The 2 up for eviction " last week and added something else to it too