[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It honestly causes me despair at how willing people are to **** themselves over because a newspaper told them they should hate Corbyn.

Is that all you've got?
Those of us from N. Ireland knew of Corbyn and his IRA love - in way back in the 70's, before many here even heard of him.
I don't need a current newspaper to educate me.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Is that all you've got?
Those of us from N. Ireland knew of Corbyn and his IRA love - in way back in the 70's, before many here even heard of him.
I don't need a current newspaper to educate me.

You seem to be okay with certain terrorists but not others. The DUP has actual links to terrorism yet you seem okay to brush that under the rug because you don't seem to care about what May or the DUP is doing as long as you get to hate on Corbyn.

A dangerous attitude, people voted for the Tories without understanding what it would mean to do so just out of hatred for Corbyn and they aren't paying attention to what May is doing because they're addicted to the 'I hate Jeremy Corbyn' haterade.

Theresa May used a £1bn bribe to solidify their power, a party that is likely going to divide N.I even more with it's newfound prominence but that's all fine because who cares about that when you can hate on Jeremy Corbyn? No need to worry about what's actually happening at all because hating Jeremy Corbyn is the only thing that matters.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You seem to be okay with certain terrorists but not others. The DUP has actual links to terrorism yet you seem okay to brush that under the rug because you don't seem to care about what May or the DUP is doing as long as you get to hate on Corbyn.

I answered this already on the previous page in reply to Kizzy:

I don't like them, but any support the DUP had for sectarianism (and it was tenuous to say the least) were in defence of a country being bombed to bits and their citizens killed and maimed by the IRA, several murderers of which organisation are still members of Sinn Fein. There are no murderers in the DUP and never have been. I suppose you think NI Unionists should just have sat back and let the IRA/Sinn Fein do their worst?
What sort of fairytale land does your mind live in?

Maybe if the IRA had murdered people you loved then you would hate the IRA supporter Corbyn too.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

I answered this already on the previous page in reply to Kizzy:



Maybe if the IRA had murdered people you loved then you would hate the IRA supporter Corbyn too.

So you're okay with certain kinds of terrorism but not others?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you're okay with certain kinds of terrorism but not others?

I am not okay with any kind of terrorism or murder. I was pointing out the reason why the DUP may have had tenuous links to paramilitaries in the past. The other side in any conflict is always going to bite back with some support, it happens the world over as you know very well, it's not right but its understandable. They have also condemned all terrorism many times over and the main party leaders have no links to or support any terrorist organisations whatsoever that I have ever heard of.
If there had been no IRA campaign there would have been no paramilitaries in the first place.
You don't appear to have any compassion for the destruction and pain the IRA caused to N.I citizens, myself included. All you seem to care about is defending Corbyn. Do you agree with his support of the IRA? I don't believe I have seen you condemn it, though I could be mistaken.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by jet

I am not okay with any kind of terrorism or murder. I was pointing out the reason why the DUP may have had tenuous links to paramilitaries in the past. The other side in any conflict is always going to bite back with some support, it happens the world over as you know very well, it's not right but its understandable. They have also condemned all terrorism many times over and the main party leaders have no links to or support any terrorist organisations whatsoever that I have ever heard of.
If there had been no IRA campaign there would have been no paramilitaries in the first place.
You don't appear to have any compassion for the destruction and pain the IRA caused to N.I citizens, myself included. All you seem to care about is defending Corbyn. Do you agree with his support of the IRA? I don't believe I have seen you condemn it, though I could be mistaken.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you're okay with certain kinds of terrorism but not others?

So you're okay with inferring people are terrorist sympathisers when it suits after throwing such allegations my way in other threads. Either blatant hypocrisy or you having no self-awareness whatsoever.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

I am not okay with any kind of terrorism or murder. I was pointing out the reason why the DUP may have had tenuous links to paramilitaries in the past. The other side in any conflict is always going to bite back with some support, it happens the world over as you know very well, it's not right but its understandable. They have also condemned all terrorism many times over and the main party leaders have no links to or support any terrorist organisations whatsoever that I have ever heard of.
If there had been no IRA campaign there would have been no paramilitaries in the first place.
You don't appear to have any compassion for the destruction and pain the IRA caused to N.I citizens, myself included. All you seem to care about is defending Corbyn. Do you agree with his support of the IRA? I don't believe I have seen you condemn it, though I could be mistaken.

You're happy enough to bash Jeremy Corbyn for having tenuous links but you aren't going to do the same for the DUP for having solidified links to terrorism? You are jumping through a lot of hoops to try to justify what is a hypocritical attitude.

If there was any real proof of Corbyn having a sympathetic attitude towards the IRA then he simply would not be in the position he is in, too many people oppose him for him to not be taken down by such accusations if they were true. The fat that he is still in a position of power after all the accusations speaks more for his innocence than his guilt.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

So you're okay with inferring people are terrorist sympathisers when it suits after throwing such allegations my way in other threads. Either blatant hypocrisy or you having no self-awareness whatsoever.

Reading is important Brillo, you need to stop pretending people have written what you wanted them to write and comment on what they actually said. You can't keep trying to drag people for imaginary comments that you have made up.

Jet is happy enough to slate one party with links to terrorism because of their alleged links to JC but they aren't doing the same to another party with similar links because they oppose JC. I'm not calling Jet a terrorist sympathiser, i'm calling them a hypocrite.

Honestly, this should have been obvious if you actually bothered to read what I said.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're happy enough to bash Jeremy Corbyn for having tenuous links but you aren't going to do the same for the DUP for having solidified links to terrorism? You are jumping through a lot of hoops to try to justify what is a hypocritical attitude.

If there was any real proof of Corbyn having a sympathetic attitude towards the IRA then he simply would not be in the position he is in, too many people oppose him for him to not be taken down by such accusations if they were true. The fat that he is still in a position of power after all the accusations speaks more for his innocence than his guilt.



Reading is important Brillo, you need to stop pretending people have written what you wanted them to write and comment on what they actually said. You can't keep trying to drag people for imaginary comments that you have made up.

Jet is happy enough to slate one party with links to terrorism because of their alleged links to JC but they aren't doing the same to another party with similar links because they oppose JC. I'm not calling Jet a terrorist sympathiser, i'm calling them a hypocrite.

Honestly, this should have been obvious if you actually bothered to read what I said.

hes failed to denounce the IRA and Hammas and defied all anti terror laws...the man will not protect his own country

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're happy enough to bash Jeremy Corbyn for having tenuous links but you aren't going to do the same for the DUP for having solidified links to terrorism? You are jumping through a lot of hoops to try to justify what is a hypocritical attitude.

If there was any real proof of Corbyn having a sympathetic attitude towards the IRA then he simply would not be in the position he is in, too many people oppose him for him to not be taken down by such accusations if they were true. The fat that he is still in a position of power after all the accusations speaks more for his innocence than his guilt.



Reading is important Brillo, you need to stop pretending people have written what you wanted them to write and comment on what they actually said. You can't keep trying to drag people for imaginary comments that you have made up.

Jet is happy enough to slate one party with links to terrorism because of their alleged links to JC but they aren't doing the same to another party with similar links because they oppose JC. I'm not calling Jet a terrorist sympathiser, i'm calling them a hypocrite.

Honestly, this should have been obvious if you actually bothered to read what I said.

You really are woefully misinformed about the complicated politics of N.Ireland. I never thought I'd see the day when I would be defending the DUP, but so many misconceptions have been bandied about to do with the N.Ireland troubles and the parties that I do a double take on a regular basis.

I will quote MTVN from earlier who does understand N.Ireland politics and include a link also posted that may help you to be more informed:

Sinn Fein were the official political party of the IRA. The DUP are not and never have been the official political party of any loyalist paramilitary and the DUP today is a far different beast to the DUP in its early days under Ian Paisley. If they have some history with ex-loyalist terrorists that is because it is impossible to be involved in Northern Irish politics and be wholly cut off from the violence that existed there for years and years.

https://capx.co/criticism-of-the-dup...ght-hypocrisy/


The IRA/Sinn Fein connection was a whole different beast to any Loyalist Para/DUP connection. I have already said I oppose ALL terrorism but you chose to ignore that, just as you chose to ignore the fact that Corbyn was well known as an IRA sympathiser and supporter in N.Ireland as far back as the 70's, before he became an MP. Tenuous links my ass. You think you know better than people who lived here and experienced the Troubles from beginning to end.

Just as you chose to ignore serious commentators on TV mentioning his past IRA links and the numerous articles detailing his involvement...and tell me this - why hasn't he sued any of them if they are ALL made up?
Answer: He dare not.
I have no interest whatsoever in the DUP opposing Corbyn. I have no affiliation with either UK Conservatives or Labour, or the DUP either, so that doesn't come into it with me personally. I always voted SDLP, the Labour equivalent in N.Ireland.
Why have the accusations not taken him down? Because either his supporters are too enamoured of him to give a **** or they refuse to believe it. Just like you in fact.

But by all means keep living in your la la land of denial. You wouldn't want reality to get in the way of your Corbyn worship.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're happy enough to bash Jeremy Corbyn for having tenuous links but you aren't going to do the same for the DUP for having solidified links to terrorism? You are jumping through a lot of hoops to try to justify what is a hypocritical attitude.

If there was any real proof of Corbyn having a sympathetic attitude towards the IRA then he simply would not be in the position he is in, too many people oppose him for him to not be taken down by such accusations if they were true. The fat that he is still in a position of power after all the accusations speaks more for his innocence than his guilt.



Reading is important Brillo, you need to stop pretending people have written what you wanted them to write and comment on what they actually said. You can't keep trying to drag people for imaginary comments that you have made up.

Jet is happy enough to slate one party with links to terrorism because of their alleged links to JC but they aren't doing the same to another party with similar links because they oppose JC. I'm not calling Jet a terrorist sympathiser, i'm calling them a hypocrite.

Honestly, this should have been obvious if you actually bothered to read what I said.

That works both ways. You read what you wanted to into my posts. At no point did I call you a terrorist sympathiser. I simply pointed out when you and others supported JC despite his dubious history and links with terrorists yet were quick to accuse the DUC of being terrorists and those supporting the Tory/DUC alliance as terrorist sympathisers.

At the end of the day they are both political parties - what is the point in allowing people to form political parties , allegedly in the name of achieving peace, if you don't want to allow them the same rights as other political parties such as forming an alliance with the government.

I wonder if you would have had the same issues with Sinn Fein forming an alliance with Labour to get them in.

Hypocrisy!

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're happy enough to bash Jeremy Corbyn for having tenuous links but you aren't going to do the same for the DUP for having solidified links to terrorism? You are jumping through a lot of hoops to try to justify what is a hypocritical attitude.

If there was any real proof of Corbyn having a sympathetic attitude towards the IRA then he simply would not be in the position he is in, too many people oppose him for him to not be taken down by such accusations if they were true. The fat that he is still in a position of power after all the accusations speaks more for his innocence than his guilt.



Reading is important Brillo, you need to stop pretending people have written what you wanted them to write and comment on what they actually said. You can't keep trying to drag people for imaginary comments that you have made up.

Jet is happy enough to slate one party with links to terrorism because of their alleged links to JC but they aren't doing the same to another party with similar links because they oppose JC. I'm not calling Jet a terrorist sympathiser, i'm calling them a hypocrite.

Honestly, this should have been obvious if you actually bothered to read what I said.

You're selective reading again. You didn't get any of the heartfelt pain in Jet's post at all did you? You're pontificating about a very difficult situation that people have lived in a very painful way and been torn apart by.