[Jack_]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Love Island knows its audience and knows what kind of shout is, big brother has forgotten these things and is desperately trying to be like everyone one of its competitors.

Yep, and more importantly the channel actually shows it a modicum of respect (well, actually a whole heap). C5's disdain for civilian Big Brother has been long known but they've really taken the piss of late, and the total lack of any decent promotion has in part contributed to its recent demise. The most annoying thing about it is when CBB rolls around the promotion will step up tenfold, when it's the civilian series that needs it the most

ITV2 have invested in, nurtured and thrown the kitchen sink at this project and it's work. C5 could learn a lot of lessons, but won't

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yep, and more importantly the channel actually shows it a modicum of respect (well, actually a whole heap). C5's disdain for civilian Big Brother has been long known but they've really taken the piss of late, and the total lack of any decent promotion has in part contributed to its recent demise. The most annoying thing about it is when CBB rolls around the promotion will step up tenfold, when it's the civilian series that needs it the most

ITV2 have invested in, nurtured and thrown the kitchen sink at this project and it's work. C5 could learn a lot of lessons, but won't

yeah I agree completely. I hope Endamol clocks channel 5 when they try and only buy cbb.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

yeah I agree completely. I hope Endamol clocks channel 5 when they try and only buy cbb.

Me too, they did in 2011 IIRC but you see I'm worried that even Endemol don't care anymore. I mean it's largely them at fault for the state the production of the show is in, it's just that C5's mistreatment of it in terms of scheduling and promotion aren't helping matters. So I'm beginning to wonder whether Endemol might just concede defeat and try and secure a similar price for CBB alone

They really should be standing their ground a whole lot more though, ensuring that it's a package deal, that there's clauses which ensure the series length can't be cut to the bone, that eviction shows must remain at 9, more live feed, etc etc