[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How do you know there were 600 that seems a lot of people crammed into 120 one and two bed flats? Some elderly residents will be living alone, not every flat will have been occupied on the night either, if the council don't know how many were living there I don't know how anyone can know for sure how many were there on that night

''How many people live at Grenfell Tower?
An exact figure is unknown but it is a 24-storey tower block and there are thought to be around 24 people per floor.
This would leave the total at around 600 (576) although authorities have no idea how many people were in their homes during the fire.
Kensington and Chelsea Council leader Nick Paget-Brown suggested, ‘several hundred would have been in there. It’s a question of establishing how many people were in there at the time of the fire''


Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/14/where-...#ixzz4lIWbFZGn

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

''How many people live at Grenfell Tower?
An exact figure is unknown but it is a 24-storey tower block and there are thought to be around 24 people per floor.
This would leave the total at around 600 (576) although authorities have no idea how many people were in their homes during the fire.
Kensington and Chelsea Council leader Nick Paget-Brown suggested, ‘several hundred would have been in there. It’s a question of establishing how many people were in there at the time of the fire''


Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/14/where-...#ixzz4lIWbFZGn

I think the operative words there are the figure is unknown...the Asian man who was rescued was alone, I have seen a few families who have elderly/disabled relatives missing who lived alone, the young Italian couple who had just moved People seem to be assuming that all the flats were heaving with people, but the bedroom tax is a thing because people in social housing do have spare rooms especially if the lived there all their lives, some residents have formed groups now to see if the count is underestimated, I think it's difficult as people might have been staying over but equally residents might not have been in the building that night, and some are not coming forward for their own reasons

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think the operative words there are the figure is unknown...the Asian man who was rescued was alone, I have seen a few families who have elderly/disabled relatives missing who lived alone, the young Italian couple who had just moved People seem to be assuming that all the flats were heaving with people, but the bedroom tax is a thing because people in social housing do have spare rooms especially if the lived there all their lives, some residents have formed groups now to see if the count is underestimated, I think it's difficult as people might have been staying over but equally residents might not have been in the building that night, and some are not coming forward for their own reasons

Why is the figure unknown? Council tax is a thing too it shows who is in your property and their ages.
The estimate of 2 persons per flat per floor would be an over estimate in some properties and under in others surely?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why is the figure unknown? Council tax is a thing too it shows who is in your property and their ages.
The estimate of 2 persons per flat per floor would be an over estimate in some properties and under in others surely?

If there were 600 people in the building you would have an average of 5 people in every flat

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If there were 600 people in the building you would have an average of 5 people in every flat

Wow you really are labouring on this point, seeing as there are no official records available would 500 be a figure you can get your head around? I did notice they weren't counting the people that threw themselves or children out of the windows as having died in the fire. That may have some significance.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wow you really are labouring on this point, seeing as there are no official records available would 500 be a figure you can get your head around? I did notice they weren't counting the people that threw themselves or children out of the windows as having died in the fire. That may have some significance.

You ended your post to me with a question mark should I not follow up ..I can get my head around many figures what I don't like is people pulling figures out of the air to suit an agenda

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You ended your post to me with a question mark should I not follow up ..I can get my head around many figures what I don't like is people pulling figures out of the air to suit an agenda

They were the figures as reported Cherie I did not pull them out of the air :/

It stands to reason that a block of 24 storeys is going to have more than a couple of hundred living in it.

''The 1970s-era Grenfell tower block is believed to have contained 120 flats and have been home to between 400 and 600 people. But undocumented migrants and visiting partners, friends, and relatives are not included in this figure.''

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7811461.html