[joeysteele]

In my opinion,it is ridiculous this endless trying to clutch at straws against Raph.

We get a few on here don't like him but it's amazing the petty criticisms thrown out at him.

It always astounds me people who dislike someone would actually prefer to talk about them more than people they like.
Raph did nothing out of order he was not agreeing with Sue and stayed letting Sue go on even after Chanelle came over too.
Utter rubbish with respect to infer he did anything untoward.
In fact he helped Chanelle get to hear someone going on about her behind her back.

Those who dislike him will never ever see it that way,those who look for the good in people rather than trying to invent bad where there is none,will easily see it differently thankfully.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

In my opinion,it is ridiculous this endless trying to clutch at straws against Raph.

We get a few on here don't like him but it's amazing the petty criticisms thrown out at him.

It always astounds me people who dislike someone would actually prefer to talk about them more than people they like.
Raph did nothing out of order he was not agreeing with Sue and stayed letting Sue go on even after Chanelle came over too.
Utter rubbish with respect to infer he did anything untoward.
In fact he helped Chanelle get to hear someone going on about her behind her back.

Those who dislike him will never ever see it that way,those who look for the good in people rather than trying to invent bad where there is none,will easily see it differently thankfully.

I know, this pettiness has ruined the forum for me. We should be talking about the show, not obsess about someone to the point that everything they do its twisted.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I know, this pettiness has ruined the forum for me. We should be talking about the show, not obsess about someone to the point that everything they do its twisted.

Raph is a hm8 and as such is in there to be judge just as all the others are ,every series EVERYONE gets talked about both good and bad, this series is no different just because a member of this forum is in there and just because he's your fav, yourself and everyone else is guilty of dissecting the hm8s ,this is what happens on a forum

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I know, this pettiness has ruined the forum for me. We should be talking about the show, not obsess about someone to the point that everything they do its twisted.

Sorry Vanessa,but the irony of this

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I love how Chanelle and Raph are always there for each other. They're so close and always have each other's back.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry Vanessa,but the irony of this

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry Vanessa,but the irony of this

Where is the irony.
For myself for instance, I rarely bother about housemate's I don't care for.
I may make the odd comment but I prefer as Vanessa does, to all out support the housemates I like,such as Ben in 2010 and Aaron in 2011.

I certainly would not be nit picking and endlessly highlighting every single point about housemate's I claim to dislike.

As I said preferring to all out support the ones I do.
That is all Vanessa and indeed I am doing here on yet another petty getting at Raph list of endless threads by those who have only one aim,to try to discredit him.

You and I once fought strongly together against that for Ben Duncan in 2010 when endless petty points were endlessly raised against him by people who really disliked him.
Both you and I confused why those who hated him had to obsessively make negative threads on him.
I still do the same as I did then,for one 7 years on,support my favourites,far less interested in those I don't care for.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Where is the irony.
For myself for instance, I rarely bother about housemate's I don't care for.
I may make the odd comment but I prefer as Vanessa does, to all out support the housemates I like,such as Ben in 2010 and Aaron in 2011.

I certainly would not be nit picking and endlessly highlighting every single point about housemate's I claim to dislike.

As I said preferring to all out support the ones I do.
That is all Vanessa and indeed I am doing here on yet another petty getting at Raph list of endless threads by those who have only one aim,to try to discredit him.

You and I once fought strongly together against that for Ben Duncan in 2010 when endless petty points were endlessly raised against him by people who really disliked him.
Both you and I confused why those who hated him had to obsessively make negative threads on him.
I still do the same as I did then,for one 7 years on,support my favourites,far less interested in those I don't care for.

The irony is Joey,that Vanessa defends Raph against anything whether it's right or wrong, nothing wrong with that but to call someone else out for doing the same thing is irony,simple as that. I don't dislike Raph but I do see he is not perfect all the time .I know Vanessa will not get funny over that post as we have disagreed on housemates before.it's all good.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I know, this pettiness has ruined the forum for me. We should be talking about the show, not obsess about someone to the point that everything they do its twisted.

They are all valid points. Sick of the 'clutching at straws' comment just because a negative point is being made about someone's favoroite. The 'love in' for Raph is equally nauseating for me and others but we let you all get on with it.
It's a forum we discuss housemates positively and negatively.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

They are all valid points. Sick of the 'clutching at straws' comment just because a negative point is being made about someone's favoroite. The 'love in' for Raph is equally nauseating for me and others but we let you all get on with it.
It's a forum we discuss housemates positively and negatively.

Its pathetic and despite what people would claim if Raph wasn't a member on here things would have been totally different, the ones kissing his backside would be seeing the real him that none fans of his can see

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

People who pay attention to the show will know that Raph stood up for Chanelle. He told Sue he didn't agree with her. People expect Raph to fight in there. It's not going to happen and why should he? He gets on with everyone now that horrible Joe has left.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

People who pay attention to the show will know that Raph stood up for Chanelle. He told Sue he didn't agree with her. People expect Raph to fight in there. It's not going to happen and why should he? He gets on with everyone now that horrible Joe has left.

Absolutely right, summed up for me anyway perfectly there Vanessa.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its pathetic and despite what people would claim if Raph wasn't a member on here things would have been totally different, the ones kissing his backside would be seeing the real him that none fans of his can see

Excuse me, I didn't know him as a member previously. I literally found that out about a week into the show. I wish I had known him because he seems a nice bloke... my support came from his time in the house.

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh oh, its the forum polis telling others what they should post about....tough..i enjoy moaning lile a bitch.about ralph and any other hm i diislike just as much as i lile saying how much i lile debs and other hms i like..so please accept my virtual 2 fingers forum polis.

Is it healthy to just want to bitch about a stranger all morning though?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Excuse me, I didn't know him as a member previously. I literally found that out about a week into the show. I wish I had known him because he seems a nice bloke... my support came from his time in the house.



Is it healthy to just want to bitch about a stranger all morning though?

I have been working hard at work as well..is it any different to praising a hm all morning..or just browsing the forum all morning...no it isnt..is it.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I have been working hard at work as well..is it any different to praising a hm all morning..or just browsing the forum all morning...no it isnt..is it.

If you can't see the difference...

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

In my opinion,it is ridiculous this endless trying to clutch at straws against Raph.

We get a few on here don't like him but it's amazing the petty criticisms thrown out at him.

It always astounds me people who dislike someone would actually prefer to talk about them more than people they like.
Raph did nothing out of order he was not agreeing with Sue and stayed letting Sue go on even after Chanelle came over too.
Utter rubbish with respect to infer he did anything untoward.
In fact he helped Chanelle get to hear someone going on about her behind her back.

Those who dislike him will never ever see it that way,those who look for the good in people rather than trying to invent bad where there is none,will easily see it differently thankfully.

Raph is not my favourite housemate, so I am looking at this from an objective view, and what you say is the truth. Clutching at straws sums it up on far too many occasions regarding Raph.

And I think Chanelle is more than capable of fighting her own battles! She's hardly a shrinking violet!