[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Well well well. I bet they won't tell any of this to his face.

Charlotte wasn't bitching about him ,infact she was being generous saying he was intelligent and a doctor in London or something like that, ,and she didn't think that outside of the house him and chanelle would have been friends,which they probably wouldn't have. she wasn't bitching,she said nothing nasty,dont know about Andrew I cant understand him sometimes.

[Jodie.]

Andrew should be ejected from Thorn Cottage

[Glenn-C]

Originally Posted by Jordi.

Andrew should be ejected from Thorn Cottage

Make him sleep in the woods?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Charlotte wasn't bitching about him ,infact she was being generous saying he was intelligent and a doctor in London or something like that, ,and she didn't think that outside of the house him and chanelle would have been friends,which they probably wouldn't have. she wasn't bitching,she said nothing nasty,dont know about Andrew I cant understand him sometimes.

Exactly it was an observation, nothing more

[SarenaW]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Charlotte wasn't bitching about him ,infact she was being generous saying he was intelligent and a doctor in London or something like that, ,and she didn't think that outside of the house him and chanelle would have been friends,which they probably wouldn't have. she wasn't bitching,she said nothing nasty,dont know about Andrew I cant understand him sometimes.

I recall her saying that if Ralph (and Chanelle) were really like how they portrayed themselves to be then they wouldn't be friends. Essentially calling them fake or "too faced".

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Charlotte wasn't bitching about him ,infact she was being generous saying he was intelligent and a doctor in London or something like that, ,and she didn't think that outside of the house him and chanelle would have been friends,which they probably wouldn't have. she wasn't bitching,she said nothing nasty,dont know about Andrew I cant understand him sometimes.

Spot on.

I have thought exactly that from the start: Chanelle and Raph's 'friendship' is not natural, it's purely tactical. They use each other.

All Charlotte did was point out the obvious!

Raph uses Chanelle for two reasons:
1. She is the alpha of the house.
2. She is a thorn cottage 'outsider'. BB expert Raph knows the outside group tend to do better, so he was ALWAYS going to put himself with the outsiders - WHOEVER they were.

Chanelle uses Raph for two reasons:
1. He strokes her massive ego, empowering her.
2. He is very good at extracting the gossip from the house, which he relays to her, like a drone bee bringing pollen back to the queen.

Charlotte is right: In real life they would not be friends. Even on a different BB with different people - Chanelle could easily be in the 'cool kids' crowd. In which case Raph would never be friends with her then.

I wonder if Chanelle had slept in Rose Cottage from the start - would her and Raph even be friends at all! I think it's all about convenience and Raph and her using each other. They are both manipulative in subtle, sly ways. As 'friends' they are TOTALLY mismatched.

For example: One thing we all know Raph dislikes is crude, derogatory language. He complained to Thorn Cottage when Lotan used the term 'bitch' in a joke for example. Yet Chanelle is the QUEEN of crude, derogatory language! More than anyone in there! Raph IGNORES in Chanelle ALL the traits he dislikes in others. This HAS to be tactical.

I can't stop thinking of Raph's BOTS audition where he said he uses his friendly smile to manipulate people and likes nothing more than 'crushing the souls of the popular people'.

Woah dude!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Spot on.

I have thought exactly that from the start: Chanelle and Raph's 'friendship' is not natural, it's purely tactical. They use each other.

All Charlotte did was point out the obvious!

Raph uses Chanelle for two reasons:
1. She is the alpha of the house.
2. She is a thorn cottage 'outsider'. BB expert Raph knows the outside group tend to do better, so he was ALWAYS going to put himself with the outsiders - WHOEVER they were.

Chanelle uses Raph for two reasons:
1. He strokes her massive ego, empowering her.
2. He is very good at extracting the gossip from the house, which he relays to her, like a drone bee bringing pollen back to the queen.

Charlotte is right: In real life they would not be friends. Even on a different BB with different people - Chanelle could easily be in the 'cool kids' crowd. In which case Raph would never be friends with her then.

I wonder if Chanelle had slept in Rose Cottage from the start - would her and Raph even be friends at all! I think it's all about convenience and Raph and her using each other. They are both manipulative in subtle, sly ways. As 'friends' they are TOTALLY mismatched.

For example: One thing we all know Raph dislikes is crude, derogatory language. He complained to Thorn Cottage when Lotan used the term 'bitch' in a joke for example. Yet Chanelle is the QUEEN of crude, derogatory language! More than anyone in there! Raph IGNORES in Chanelle ALL the traits he dislikes in others. This HAS to be tactical.

I can't stop thinking of Raph's BOTS audition where he said he uses his friendly smile to manipulate people and likes nothing more than 'crushing the souls of the popular people'.

Woah dude!

Spot on Robo

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Spot on Robo

Cheers Kaz, always a pleasure

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Spot on.

I have thought exactly that from the start: Chanelle and Raph's 'friendship' is not natural, it's purely tactical. They use each other.

All Charlotte did was point out the obvious!

Raph uses Chanelle for two reasons:
1. She is the alpha of the house.
2. She is a thorn cottage 'outsider'. BB expert Raph knows the outside group tend to do better, so he was ALWAYS going to put himself with the outsiders - WHOEVER they were.

Chanelle uses Raph for two reasons:
1. He strokes her massive ego, empowering her.
2. He is very good at extracting the gossip from the house, which he relays to her, like a drone bee bringing pollen back to the queen.

Charlotte is right: In real life they would not be friends. Even on a different BB with different people - Chanelle could easily be in the 'cool kids' crowd. In which case Raph would never be friends with her then.

I wonder if Chanelle had slept in Rose Cottage from the start - would her and Raph even be friends at all! I think it's all about convenience and Raph and her using each other. They are both manipulative in subtle, sly ways. As 'friends' they are TOTALLY mismatched.

For example: One thing we all know Raph dislikes is crude, derogatory language. He complained to Thorn Cottage when Lotan used the term 'bitch' in a joke for example. Yet Chanelle is the QUEEN of crude, derogatory language! More than anyone in there! Raph IGNORES in Chanelle ALL the traits he dislikes in others. This HAS to be tactical.

I can't stop thinking of Raph's BOTS audition where he said he uses his friendly smile to manipulate people and likes nothing more than 'crushing the souls of the popular people'.

Woah dude!

...or they have literally bonded because they sleep in the same bed and in BB these type of things happen?