[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He came across as very bitter and sanctimonious in the diary room imo

Oh yes he did and all thats STUPID hand slapping Grow up little boy.... I think he's jealous of anyone getting camera time

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

None of them like to admit they are there for the money.
The difference between Raph and Andrew is that Andrew cannot win the ultimate game. Sam could have kicked him out on Friday empty handed..but Sam was too thick.
Andrew did the right thing.
If Hannah had won he wouldn't have said that about her...Deborah has said previously she would take the money if she had the chance as she had had the experience but had to think of her family...he never dissed her for it.
He would have gained more respect for being happy for Andrew. He just showed himself as being bitter and jealous. Had Raph been the 2nd chance housemate he would have done exactly the same thing.
Andrew didn't like Simone exposing his private financial position by saying he 'hadn't got a pot to piss in'...
Just enjoy the 'experience' Raph and don't put people down for having different agendas. Most people are there to win the money..nothing wrong with that.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They just didn't agree on that issue. But they're still on friendly terms and that's very mature on both parts

Absolutely right.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They're still friends. So no jealousy whatsoever.

Some friend that...

Ripping him to bits in the diary room, shunning him infront of everyone...talking to everyone about him....believing a stranger over a mate........


Wow, you value your friendships not slaughter your friend..

[Underscore]

Innit

[Littlegreen]

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Some friend that...

Ripping him to bits in the diary room, shunning him infront of everyone...talking to everyone about him....believing a stranger over a mate........


Wow, you value your friendships not slaughter your friend..

He has been a good friend, he didn't judge Andrew based on what Simone initially told him. It's only Andrew taking the second-chance money that made Raph question whether Simone was correct.

At least he's bloody got an opinion, the rest seem to just sit on their hands and coast along.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

How was it weak?..took a lot of nerve to do that then evict someone face to face as well.

What i would class as weak and obvious is raph picking his clique for any task reward he has recieved this series


Wouldnt you say that is more weak and obvious?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

He has been a good friend, he didn't judge Andrew based on what Simone initially told him. It's only Andrew taking the second-chance money that made Raph question whether Simone was correct.

At least he's bloody got an opinion, the rest seem to just sit on their hands and coast along.

Why didn't he say it to Andrews face then instead of in the diary room ?

[Paula D]

I normally can't stand Raph but he's right on this one.

It's the fact that Andrew kicked up such a **** storm when Simone said he was there for the money that would piss me off. He should have owned it.

He had his hand on the buzzer before BB was finished speaking ffs.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS

Spot on.

Anyone there for the experience would want that experience to carry on.....if that means taking some cash and evicting someone for your time to carry on then so be it....being fake and talking **** in the diary room about someone who just did what you woulld have done is stupid...hes not as clever as he thinks.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS

Not a chance chuff. Raph isn't bothered about the money.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Why didn't he say it to Andrews face then instead of in the diary room ?

He may do yet. BB probably asked him his opinion on it.

Don't forget Raph did confront him on the Charlotte/Andrew bitching the other day.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I normally can't stand Raph but he's right on this one.

It's the fact that Andrew kicked up such a **** storm when Simone said he was there for the money that would piss me off. He should have owned it.

He had his hand on the buzzer before BB was finished speaking ffs.

They had obviously discussed it in the hotel before coming in, I don't know why Andrew made a big song and dance over it.

Simone was made to look like a liar when she was spot on.

[Parmy]

He may not be bothered about the money..but like andrew he is there for the experience...so he would have pressed it ao he could carry on that experience..just like andrew did.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Not a chance chuff. Raph isn't bothered about the money.



He may do yet. BB probably asked him his opinion on it.

Don't forget Raph did confront him on the Charlotte/Andrew bitching the other day.

Why would they ask him ?

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Why would they ask him ?

Because Raph believed he would be evicted (he told Andrew that.) BB probably called most of them in to discuss it.


Believe me I'm not frowning on Andrew taking the money, I myself would. It's just different strokes, isn't it...

[Parmy]

Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

[Underscore]

Innit

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

Correct it is not the same..andrews move took stregnth and guts..raphs decisions were weak and predictable.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

You've already said you would have done the same as Andrew and if he was being honest Raph would have done it too,he's not said a word to Hannah how also pressed the buzzer and was so desperate she pressed before time

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You've already said you would have done the same as Andrew and if he was being honest Raph would have done it too,he's not said a word to Hannah how also pressed the buzzer and was so desperate she pressed before time

The buzzer money isn't his issue, he's calling the money made from Andrew evicting Sam "tainted" which it is. Because it wasn't earned through the public deciding that he should be the last remaining second-chance housemate.

Raph wasn't calling the buzzer press "weak", the decision to knock out Sam was. (Marcus even said that in the intro)

- which I think everybody on here said yesterday was a predictable decision and in other words weak.

[sampvt]

Our little no hope raph is going home to a 5 min interview and a bus ride home. No fanfare. No bots. No adoration. Just back to his little laptop and sad life and hopefully me in his ear if he dares to come back here after letting the forum down.