[Ant.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well you are right it's a nickname...it's just a bit of fun. There is a lot of real immaturity on this forum...including those fans who talk about him like he is a 5 year old child or sound like love struck teenagers...it's all harmless but is equally immature, boring and repetitive..

"Snakeboy" is hardly "nasty nick" though is it?

I dont know anyone who talks to him like he's 5 (besides the condescending haters but I doubt you're referring to them) and people who act like "love struck teenagers" let them be excited their friend is in the show and let them have a crush on who is a cute guy. It's harmless, and while you may argue the nicknames are, Raph doesn't take lightly to being called two-faced so I don't think he'll appreciate "snakeboy". Yes we're allowed to say whatever we like about him and he shouldn't have a double standard about him, but he'll be coming back to see this all and when it goes too far it's unfair (on a tangent not related to snakeboy exactly). The only people Ive seen this happen to is Issy weeks ago and Chanelle constantly (by the same people who do it to Raph) and it mustn't be nice to come back to a forum you loved to find yourself being one of the only people victim to really obscene comments, and the only others that did get similar were your best friends in the house

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

"Snakeboy" is hardly "nasty nick" though is it?

I dont know anyone who talks to him like he's 5 (besides the condescending haters but I doubt you're referring to them) and people who act like "love struck teenagers" let them be excited their friend is in the show and let them have a crush on who is a cute guy. It's harmless, and while you may argue the nicknames are, Raph doesn't take lightly to being called two-faced so I don't think he'll appreciate "snakeboy". Yes we're allowed to say whatever we like about him and he shouldn't have a double standard about him, but he'll be coming back to see this all and when it goes too far it's unfair (on a tangent not related to snakeboy exactly). The only people Ive seen this happen to is Issy weeks ago and Chanelle constantly (by the same people who do it to Raph) and it mustn't be nice to come back to a forum you loved to find yourself being one of the only people victim to really obscene comments, and the only others that did get similar were your best friends in the house

He voted sue over issy...hardly best friend material...just sayin..

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He voted sue over issy...hardly best friend material...just sayin..

And I disagreed with his actions for that. But his reason for doing so was because he believed Issy would be safe and knew Sue wouldn't be. Sue's only friend besides Raph was Simone and she couldn't participate in this task - Issy had Andrew (and the sisters but they'd obviously vote for each other).

While I think it was obvious Andrew would vote for Charlotte, Issy had a better chance of being saved than Sue. I can't say if it was a strategic move or not but he did that to her face and not once has nominated her or badmouthed her.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

And I disagreed with his actions for that. But his reason for doing so was because he believed Issy would be safe and knew Sue wouldn't be. Sue's only friend besides Raph was Simone and she couldn't participate in this task - Issy had Andrew (and the sisters but they'd obviously vote for each other).

While I think it was obvious Andrew would vote for Charlotte, Issy had a better chance of being saved than Sue. I can't say if it was a strategic move or not but he did that to her face and not once has nominated her or badmouthed her.

Have you seen the latest sleeping arrangements..2 in the room..they couldnt be further apart.

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Have you seen the latest sleeping arrangements..2 in the room..they couldnt be further apart.

They've literally always slept in those beds why change for a couple days

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by lewis111

They've literally always slept in those beds why change for a couple days

I know, it gets more petty by the minute.

I'd want to stay in a bed I'd been in for weeks rather than change now too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

"Snakeboy" is hardly "nasty nick" though is it?

I dont know anyone who talks to him like he's 5 (besides the condescending haters but I doubt you're referring to them) and people who act like "love struck teenagers" let them be excited their friend is in the show and let them have a crush on who is a cute guy. It's harmless, and while you may argue the nicknames are, Raph doesn't take lightly to being called two-faced so I don't think he'll appreciate "snakeboy". Yes we're allowed to say whatever we like about him and he shouldn't have a double standard about him, but he'll be coming back to see this all and when it goes too far it's unfair (on a tangent not related to snakeboy exactly). The only people Ive seen this happen to is Issy weeks ago and Chanelle constantly (by the same people who do it to Raph) and it mustn't be nice to come back to a forum you loved to find yourself being one of the only people victim to really obscene comments, and the only others that did get similar were your best friends in the house

Well said indeed.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

"Snakeboy" is hardly "nasty nick" though is it?

I dont know anyone who talks to him like he's 5 (besides the condescending haters but I doubt you're referring to them) and people who act like "love struck teenagers" let them be excited their friend is in the show and let them have a crush on who is a cute guy. It's harmless, and while you may argue the nicknames are, Raph doesn't take lightly to being called two-faced so I don't think he'll appreciate "snakeboy". Yes we're allowed to say whatever we like about him and he shouldn't have a double standard about him, but he'll be coming back to see this all and when it goes too far it's unfair (on a tangent not related to snakeboy exactly). The only people Ive seen this happen to is Issy weeks ago and Chanelle constantly (by the same people who do it to Raph) and it mustn't be nice to come back to a forum you loved to find yourself being one of the only people victim to really obscene comments, and the only others that did get similar were your best friends in the house

Anyone who goes on the show exposes themselves...some will love them...others will dislike them. Some will only see the good and some will only see the bad. One of his biggest fans on here called Joe a snake...it's just people's opinion. Nobody likes to be called two faced ffs...
If you want to put yourself on a show like this then you have to be prepared to take the good and the bad. Raph sees it year in and year out on this forum..when a housemate is adored by some and disliked by others. If he is the intellectual person he says he is then he won't be surprised...and if Snakeboy is the worse thing he is called I'm sure he will just take it on the chin and accept that that's someone's opinion.
...and if you don't like negative opinion then don't go on BB...and don't expect to come back on here and have everyone loving you...and I'm sure Raph wouldn't expect that at all.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Anyone who goes on the show exposes themselves...some will love them...others will dislike them. Some will only see the good and some will only see the bad. One of his biggest fans on here called Joe a snake...it's just people's opinion. Nobody likes to be called two faced ffs...
If you want to put yourself on a show like this then you have to be prepared to take the good and the bad. Raph sees it year in and year out on this forum..when a housemate is adored by some and disliked by others. If he is the intellectual person he says he is then he won't be surprised...and if Snakeboy is the worse thing he is called I'm sure he will just take it on the chin and accept that that's someone's opinion.
...and if you don't like negative opinion then don't go on BB...and don't expect to come back on here and have everyone loving you...and I'm sure Raph wouldn't expect that at all.

I've said time and time again that calling him two-faced is a valid criticism - I'm saying that if he gets upset by that, he'd get upset by the way worse comments on here.
Snakeboy isn't the worst thing he's called though, is he?? He's being called obscenities while virtually no one else is (besides his friends). "He's seen the show!! He's seen the comments people get!! He should be prepared!!" Yes, he will be prepared, and he'll accept all criticisms, but how will he feel when his identity; his sexuality, his race, is being commented on? Like I'm fine with people saying he's a "trash HM" and whatever (I disagree but that's the beauty of opinions!!) But people clearly make it personal sometimes and I've never seen anyone but him and his friends get that sort of treatment.
Ironically, the people that make those comments insist there is a rule against baiting. But let's not forget some of his friends are on here. Now I can't speak on their behalf but surely it's baiting to them when members make clearly personal remarks towards Raph? Idk I just wouldn't like it if a close friend of mine was being called ***** and whatever with sly digs regarding his race and sexuality are questioned and made a topic about when it's not relevant. These comments never really have context (as I say, not talking about snakeboy - while immature, at least there's reasoning. I mean when the things he is called are censored) and just come out of nowhere sometimes

((Subsitute Issy/Chanelle/anyone else who gets really vile comments in. The topic at hand here is Raph and this issue is more relevant due to his membership)