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Old 14-08-2017, 04:45 AM #1
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Your respect for democracy, or rather lack of it when it suits, is clear, although no doubt if the referendum had gone your way and the leavers were wanting a second referendum it would be a different story.
You're just making it up as you go along!

This is SUCH an important subject where people were at best poorly informed and, at worst, repeatedly lied to on key issues that helped them decide how they were going to vote.

Once this has happened there'll be no going back on it so, in the true spirit of democracy, why would you have a problem with a better informed UK population making sure they are doing the right thing before taking such a MASSIVE step that, if it doesn't go well, could destroy our economy completely ? Why wouldn't you want to be sure and give people the chance, now that they know that some major selling points used by the leave side were nothing more than lies made up to make their case look stronger ? Denying people that opportunity would be completely un-democratic. Or would you rather go with a result that could have come about through dishonest means just because those lies got you the result you wanted ?

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You're just making it up as you go along!

This is SUCH an important subject where people were at best poorly informed and, at worst, repeatedly lied to on key issues that helped them decide how they were going to vote.

Once this has happened there'll be no going back on it so, in the true spirit of democracy, why would you have a problem with a better informed UK population making sure they are doing the right thing before taking such a MASSIVE step that, if it doesn't go well, could destroy our economy completely ? Why wouldn't you want to be sure and give people the chance, now that they know that some major selling points used by the leave side were nothing more than lies made up to make their case look stronger ? Denying people that opportunity would be completely un-democratic. Or would you rather go with a result that could have come about through dishonest means just because those lies got you the result you wanted ?
The true spirit of democracy has already occurred. You can try to manipulate the word all you like - changes nothing, and will change nothing. Very weak attempt at emotional blackmail, but the level of. desperation is painfully clear.

Those 'lies' had nothing to do with my vote. Most probably made up their minds long before. You are making a lot of assumptions out of desperation.

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The true spirit of democracy has already occurred. You can try to manipulate the word all you like - changes nothing, and will change nothing. Very weak attempt at emotional blackmail, but the level of. desperation is painfully clear.

Those 'lies' had nothing to do with my vote. Most probably made up their minds long before. You are making a lot of assumptions out of desperation.
You clearly don't understand what 'Democracy' is then!

I know people who voted leave because of the lies spread by the leave campaign that £350 million a week would go directly into the NHS instead of to the EU.

You do realize that at any point up until Brexit is completed we can change our minds do you ? It's part of the terms and there's a very good chance, with the increasing uncertainty and nervousness that's building, that Brexit won't even happen.

Don't you care about the economy of our Country ?
I have nothingto personally gain by Brexit not happening but i don't want to see our Country ruined.

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You clearly don't understand what 'Democracy' is then!

I know people who voted leave because of the lies spread by the leave campaign that £350 million a week would go directly into the NHS instead of to the EU.

You do realize that at any point up until Brexit is completed we can change our minds do you ? It's part of the terms and there's a very good chance, with the increasing uncertainty and nervousness that's building, that Brexit won't even happen.

Don't you care about the economy of our Country ?
I have nothingto personally gain by Brexit not happening but i don't want to see our Country ruined.
That comes down to viewpoint and who you believe. I have seen as many expert positive views of the effects of leaving the EU as I have the negative views (excluding all the obvious scaremongering).

The negative views are not proven facts - they are opinions depending on who has to gain from what. Self-interest is always top of the priorities of many.

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