[the_stillness]

Originally posted by Red Moon

The problem with Bullies is they get away with it. People defend them by blaming they actions on other people. While these type of people continue to defend the Bullies they can get away with anything.

You can see what I mean if you look though some of the posts about Jade Goody on this site. Some people are quick to blame others for what she did.

But if gay people have children and those children get bullied at school, because there parents are gay - then the teachers should be informed about the situation and deal with it accordingly. If, in your opinion - Bullies get away with it, then that will give no hope to gay parents who desperately wish to adopt and also gives a bad name for teachers who should be tackling bullying in Schools anyway. I have read what Sunshine was saying and he feels that this is where the problem lies. Do you feel that we should just give up and let children be bullied - just because they have gay parents?

Jade Goody said that she bullied Shilpa Shetty - I remember watching the Big Brothers Little Brother and the Davina McCall interview and also read the newspapers at the time. But that was reality tv gone wrong and it got bad and yukky. Not one of Big Brothers best moments - would you agree?

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by the_stillness
But if gay people have children and those children get bullied at school, because there parents are gay - then the teachers should be informed about the situation and deal with it accordingly. If, in your opinion - Bullies get away with it, then that will give no hope to gay parents who desperately wish to adopt and also gives a bad name for teachers who should be tackling bullying in Schools anyway. I have read what Sunshine was saying and he feels that this is where the problem lies. Do you feel that we should just give up and let children be bullied - just because they have gay parents?

Jade Goody said that she bullied Shilpa Shetty - I remember watching the Big Brothers Little Brother and the Davina McCall interview and also read the newspapers at the time. But that was reality tv gone wrong and it got bad and yukky. Not one of Big Brothers best moments - would you agree?

You are right the teachers should do something but they don't or if they do it is ineffectual. In some case you find the parents of the bullies are bullies themselves and the bully the teachers. What we need is regulations in place with clear guide lines for teachers for dealing bullies that also protect them from bulling parents by bring in some kind arbitration.

As for the gay parents side of things they should have the same rights and expectations from schools as any other kind of family. It's not an issue.

Returning to Jade Goody, it was the lowest point of Big Brother History and did more to influence the choice of mainly lackluster housemates and the sanitization of Big Brother this year. But I can hope understand my point in relation to this thread that some people, rightly or wrongly, love Jade so much as to say she wasn't responsible for what she said inside the house. Those people are just like the parents of these kids. They are blinded by there love and will defend Jade just as the parents defend their kids that are bullies. You must admit they need to be told the truth and accept it?

Hence the need for some kind arbitration that protects the teachers.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : the_stillness
It is a touchy subject Sunshine and I couldn't agree more. I am sorry that you feel that the French Government will never change the law on that - I think that your assumption that the French Government will always feel this way, may be wrong? I am on guessing - but there is a lot of gay people in France and their voices will be heard also - but it may take time, like many things in law

You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. You seem like a very nice and friendly member - 'from what I have read', so I treat you with equal respect. But I did notice that your opinions on this subject have hurt the feelings of some posters in this topic - but it will pass by, I am sure.

I know I have hurt some member's feeling, I didn't want to, I'm sorry and thanks for respecting what I said.

The French President clearly stated that the gay marriage and the gay adoption won't happen until he has the power.

[Jeremy]

Wow I am surprised this topic is still ongoing...

[Jeremy]

There really is no topic to discuss honestly...it is extremely unfair to the loving parents/gay people if they can adopt. And extremely unfair to the child who want to be adopted but can't because people want to tell others that they have no right to adopt. Quite sad...