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Old 19-06-2017, 09:05 PM #26
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most people survive unharmed, you just have to bow down to the leader and be very respectful and you'll be fine. an unbearably sad story, but stealing a poster was a very silly thing to do - there's eyes and ears watching ur every move over there. i should be going on a year abroad to south korea next year and i was planning on making a trip to north korea but i just had an essay published in my uni journal criticising the government so on reflection i don't think that me going there would be the best idea anymore haha.
omg yeah, take this story as a warning, I don't think it's worth the visit Richard
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First of all, this is murder, and second of all, I don't entirely believe the poster story, considering the only evidence seems to be a grainy piece of footage in which the guy's face and distinguishing features are conveniently hidden
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How can they leave him in a coma for a year
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Tragic.
Poor lad, he had his life ahead of him.
I am pleased he came back home to his family for his last goodbye.
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They think it all happened very recently, the year thing is likely just more misinformation.

He had been tortured and suffered a trauma that cut off the blood supply to his brain.

If I were the north koreans, i would be very concerned right now because Trump's response was unusually well controlled and he needs to divert attention away from internal matters at the moment.
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I expect Trump to attack first tbh
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In their interview with Fox and Friends, Fred and Cindy Warmbier said when they first saw him on his return, their son was "jerking violently" and made "inhuman sounds".

They said his arms and legs were "totally deformed", he had a scar on his foot that had been an open wound for some time, and his bottom teeth looked "like someone had taken a pair of pliers" to them.

"Otto was systematically tortured and intentionally injured by Kim and his regime," said Mr Warmbier.

Dr Sammarco conducted an external examination and scans of Mr Warmbier's body - his parents refused a post-mortem.

She said she was "surprised" by the Warmbiers' statement.

"I felt very comfortable that there wasn't any evidence of trauma" to the teeth, she told reporters. There were only small scars on his body, including his foot. One of the scars could not be explained.

But she said his body and skin were in "excellent condition" for someone who had been bedridden for more than a year.

She said he died from lack of oxygen and blood to the brain caused by an injury more than year before.
so bizarre that his parents were lying about this. and why refuse an autopsy.

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so bizarre that his parents were lying about this. and why refuse an autopsy.

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I've been following this story closely so I'm glad you posted this.
Although the coroner couldn't do an autopsy, it was noted that they could find no outward signs of torture. The coroner thought it was probable that Otto got an infection like pneumonia which turned to sepsis. It was also noted that the change of drugs after he was moved back to the US could have directly resulted in his death. There is though, a possibility that Otto suffered asphyxiation starving his brain of oxygen.

Unfortunately, we will never know.
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