[supertv247]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's a completely different debate IMO.

I can see the argument about the order in which acts perform and who sticks out in audiences memory when the vote opens. BUT when it comes to the joke acts, if they're getting voted through week after week it's going to happen regardless of slot. IMO.

But it won’t happen if they put the overs on the same night as the boys knowing the boys will get more votes while the groups might not have....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by supertv247

But it won’t happen if they put the overs on the same night as the boys knowing the boys will get more votes while the groups might not have....

But if one boy and one group is going then the least popular boy and least popular group is going anyway regardless of the others?

The competition will be within their own categories, rather than outside, until the final 4.

Would whoever is deemed least popular in each category really change if you swapped out which category they were grouped with?

To illustrate, if all the boys are more popular than all the groups so the overall voting is...
1. Boy 1
2. Boy 2
3. Boy 3
4. Boy 4
5. Group 1
6. Group 2
7. Group 3
8. Group 4

Then Boy 4 and Group 4 are both leaving that night.
If you then paired those categories with another category where the voting is more mixed so you get results like...

1. Boy 1
2. Girl 1
3. Boy 2
4. Boy 3
5. Girl 2
6. Girl 3
7. Girl 4
8. Boy 4

Then "Boy 4" has a difference of 4 places, BUT he's eliminated anyway because he remains the least popular of his category?

[supertv247]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But if one boy and one group is going then the least popular boy and least popular group is going anyway regardless of the others?

The competition will be within their own categories, rather than outside, until the final 4.

Would whoever is deemed least popular in each category really change if you swapped out which category they were grouped with?

Of course if one is going from each category then you’re right, but that’s only going to happen once. Every other week, 2 categories will perform and one with the fewest overall votes will go. So what I said applies here

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by supertv247

Of course if one is going from each category then you’re right, but that’s only going to happen once. Every other week, 2 categories will perform and one with the fewest overall votes will go. So what I said applies here

Well in that case, that's simply an unfair system, which is common for this show for years.

It's like in Big Brother when a housemate is evicted one week after being majority nominated by the whole house but then, in an unfair and unannounced change of rules, someone is nominated and evicted from just one nomination the following week. That makes a mockery of the viewers and the competition by making it unbalanced.

However, the idea of simply culling the categories at an equal rate isn't necessarily a bad one. It's the limited time to get to know them and the inconsistent voting that spoils it.

[supertv247]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well in that case, that's simply an unfair system, which is common for this show for years.

It's like in Big Brother when a housemate is evicted one week after being majority nominated by the whole house but then, in an unfair and unannounced change of rules, someone is nominated and evicted from just one nomination the following week. That makes a mockery of the viewers and the competition by making it unbalanced.

However, the idea of simply culling the categories at an equal rate isn't necessarily a bad one. It's the limited time to get to know them and the inconsistent voting that spoils it.

The limited time spoils it I agree, but the change up of one week one person will be eliminated from all acts in just two categories, to one act from just one category to eventually one act form all categories is massively flawed

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by supertv247

The limited time spoils it I agree, but the change up of one week one person will be eliminated from all acts in just two categories, to one act from just one category to eventually one act form all categories is massively flawed

Definitely. And the kind of inconsistent brainfart that caused me to abandon this show a while ago.