[user104658]

I think probably a bit pointless. Your vehicle only has to be Euro 4 to avoid it, I think? Which is something like 05 plates. I don't think it particularly hits the poorest hardest, you can pick up and 05/15/06 car for a couple of hundred? They should maybe have had a small scale scrappage scheme I guess, requiring proof that you live / work in London, giving say £1000 for 02 - 05 plates. You can definitely get a decent enough newer car than that for £1000 .

But yeah, most family / individual vehicles aren't affected anyway, surely? More likely to affect vans and delivery trucks, I guess.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think probably a bit pointless. Your vehicle only has to be Euro 4 to avoid it, I think? Which is something like 05 plates. I don't think it particularly hits the poorest hardest, you can pick up and 05/15/06 car for a couple of hundred? They should maybe have had a small scale scrappage scheme I guess, requiring proof that you live / work in London, giving say £1000 for 02 - 05 plates. You can definitely get a decent enough newer car than that for £1000 .

But yeah, most family / individual vehicles aren't affected anyway, surely? More likely to affect vans and delivery trucks, I guess.

People with 08 vehicles need to check before they drive in the zone because depending on the vehicle, they may have to pay.

This is just another stealth tax. If they were really concerned about pollution, perhaps they need to tax all those leisure boats on the river that consume and pump out diesel fumes. What about the old style buses and taxis that are so abundant in our city and what about all the unnecessary gas guzzling Chelsie tractors?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

People with 08 vehicles need to check before they drive in the zone because depending on the vehicle, they may have to pay.

This is just another stealth tax. If they were really concerned about pollution, perhaps they need to tax all those leisure boats on the river that consume and pump out diesel fumes. What about the old style buses and taxis that are so abundant in our city and what about all the unnecessary gas guzzling Chelsie tractors?

I'm pretty sure 05, most 55 and all 06 "family cars" had to be Euro 4? Everything from a 2 door hatchback up to a range rover. However I'm not sure when it came into force fully for vans / trucks / other commercial vehicles so that may be why people still have to check those.

But yeah, I agree that it's a bit of a stealth tax and if it was actually about the environment, they would be better off targeting those commercial vehicles, vans, HGVs etc. rather than personal use cars. Maybe offer tax incentives to companies to replace outdated vehicles? Carrots rather than sticks, and all that.