[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

At least Brillo gives this forum something to get its teeth into. Expression is the spice of life when it comes to having a serious debate.

Agree, not so long ago the much missed Kirk was doing this and left due to constant belittling, be careful what you wish for is a good adage to fall back on, on this occasion, if posters are weary of another poster I really don't know why they can't just ignore them, seems simple enough to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I'll remember that the next time I am baited and get infracted when I bite back.

As for posters who don't post so regularly, maybe due to the persistent goading of those with non-PC views, the fact that they do speak up when they feel something is unacceptable just demonstrates strong feelings and a strong sense of injustice to me whether or you agree with their sentiments.

Non PC in your world though just seems to equal racist. So you want to be free to say racist stuff without being called out on it? That doesn't seem very balanced to me. Why shouldn't people be allowed say they think your views are racist, why is "PC" only a one way street?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I'll remember that the next time I am baited and get infracted when I bite back.

As for posters who don't post so regularly, maybe due to the persistent goading of those with non-PC views, the fact that they do speak up when they feel something is unacceptable just demonstrates strong feelings and a strong sense of injustice to me whether or you agree with their sentiments.

Most people would consider that a desirable quality.

Whether I agree or disagree with this is not the point though, the point is it seems very hypocritical to come online to accuse people of ganging up when that's exactly what they're also doing

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh FFS Kazanne, crawling out of the woodwork to gang up with people... to complain about people ganging up. You couldn't make this **** up.

I've had plenty to say about Brillo but actually, I have to be fair to her, as much as I dislike her thoughts and opinions, at least she actually HAS her own thoughts and opinions.

I rest my case ,insult me all you like,I know what I see,brillo has never from what I have seen been obnoxious or insulting to anyone,how she keeps her restraint I dont know,she's a better woman than I,plus did anyone mention you ? , no one has crawled out from the woodwork,I just am not on here 24/7,I have a life, but I have seen enough to see that some people are overly harsh on brillo.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Erm, I thought TS was the one being accused of being personal.

The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind.

I don't think anyone currently on the forum will ever rue the day they allowed the bigoted riff raff to drift off.

I was referring to good, decent members not bigots

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Whether I agree or disagree with this is not the point though, the point is it seems very hypocritical to come online to accuse people of ganging up when that's exactly what they're also doing

I am not ganging up on anyone,I am saying what I see its happens a lot where brillo posts,maybe it's people with the SAME opinions and not 'gangs' just a thought.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Non PC in your world though just seems to equal racist. So you want to be free to say racist stuff without being called out on it? That doesn't seem very balanced to me. Why shouldn't people be allowed say they think your views are racist, why is "PC" only a one way street?

People generally started using PC in response to the constant racist goading by some posters on here. People aren't saints - what do you expect. Do you believe it is ok to for people to call people racist but not ok for others to respond with PC terminology. Can't have it both ways.

Funny how people usually don't like a taste of their own medicine and get all hot under the collar when on the receiving end for a change.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Agree, not so long ago the much missed Kirk was doing this and left due to constant belittling, be careful what you wish for is a good adage to fall back on, on this occasion, if posters are weary of another poster I really don't know why they can't just ignore them, seems simple enough to me.

Exactly Cherie.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am not ganging up on anyone,I am saying what I see its happens a lot where brillo posts,maybe it's people with the SAME opinions and not 'gangs' just a thought.

Well yes but that works both ways Kazanne .................

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

People generally started using PC in response to the constant racist goading by some posters on here. People aren't saints - what do you expect. Do you believe it is ok to for people to call people racist but not ok for others to respond with PC terminology. Can't have it both ways.

Funny how people usually don't like a taste of their own medicine and get all hot under the collar when on the receiving end for a change.

You're the one complaining about being on the receiving end though

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well yes but that works both ways Kazanne .................

tbf though a lot of the people commenting in Brillo's threads say they are sick of her threads, so I don't get why they comment, and they don't just comment once, they go on and on and on...duracell bunny style

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well yes but that works both ways Kazanne .................

I know that Niamh,but is there any need for some people to be so harsh saying everyone is weary of her posts? I for one think she has been an asset to this forum, and I would debate on her posts more but someone always gets nasty,so it puts me off,but sometimes I just have to comment,there is no need.imo.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I rest my case ,insult me all you like,I know what I see,brillo has never from what I have seen been obnoxious or insulting to anyone,how she keeps her restraint I dont know,she's a better woman than I,plus did anyone mention you ? , no one has crawled out from the woodwork,I just am not on here 24/7,I have a life, but I have seen enough to see that some people are overly harsh on brillo.

I agree Kaz. God forbid anyone should not be a Corbyn supporter, or at least on the Left. Look at all those who are not left-leaning who have found it necessary to leave this place. I have lost three friends on this forum because they obviously cannot be friends with someone who is not of the same political persuasion as they are - luckily that's not the case actually in parliament. It's supposed to be about debate. It USED to be about debate. Not it's about smart-arse comments and ganging up, and all the denials in the world isn't going to change that when the evidence is there. The hostility is palpable on here now. And what a waste of time it would be to report anyone.

Anyhoo... I too am not on here a lot anymore. I prefer the company of adults and there are far fewer here than there used to be. Everyone's always right on this forum so what's the point of debating with anyone?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

This is off topic but only just seeing this and wanted to reply, everyone has their own ideas of what a good poster is chuff and obviously you will think anyone you are friends with is one of them but I'm sorry to say no that's not how it works in fact some of the people i'm assuming you talk of were as bad as or worse than most, we moderate the forum every day and see a hell of a lot more than any of you do so don't jump to conclusions thinking we will 'rue the day' for this and that because honestly theres a high likelyhood that we wont.

If you are referring to Sam that not who Im talking about, Im talking about the dozens of fun ,nice posters including Sam ...... not that Sam is not fun and nice, he's a lovely ,funny man who no one had the sense of humour to understand,and because he is also a very intelligent man didn't bode well on here, and as the gang knew he could eat them up and spit them out in a heartbeat, and they hated that ,they love to have the reins, they love to belittle and abuse people who don't fall at their feet, this is why so many people have left, of their own accord,not hounded out as Sam was ,Yes Sam went to far ,no one knows that more than him,but he's a strong,proud man who little men/women tried to belittle, but Sam is made of better stuff, he wouldn't stand for it ,so in the end he was removed ,but he's never been happier away from it all ,he's got an amazing family he doesn't need praise from a stranger on a keyboard sat in a grubby bedroom
Ive been here many years ,and seen the change in this place and the people who frequent it ,and I've seen the nice people leave because it got too much for them ,sad really

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

tbf though a lot of the people commenting in Brillo's threads say they are sick of her threads, so I don't get why they comment, and they don't just comment once, they go on and on and on...duracell bunny style

If the threads are racist though (or people think they're racist) then of course they're going to get annoyed and say something

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I know that Niamh,but is there any need for some people to be so harsh saying everyone is weary of her posts? I for one think she has been an asset to this forum, and I would debate on her posts more but someone always gets nasty,so it puts me off,but sometimes I just have to comment,there is no need.imo.

I would rather read her posts than read about fisting !!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're the one complaining about being on the receiving end though

Only when I don't feel I have been insulting to anyone but they insist on being insulting to me, repeatedly. Having a different opinion in itself is not insulting anyone.

Trouble is those that dish it out don't like it back and those that do it back are, from my experience, the ones that get infracted. Totally bizarre in my opinion.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I would rather read her posts than read about fisting !!

Kazanne was only using a metaphor when she was talking about that Candy Apple

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Only when I don't feel I have been insulting to anyone but they insist on being insulting to me, repeatedly. Having a different opinion in itself is not insulting anyone.

Trouble is those that dish it out don't like it back and those that do it back are, from my experience, the ones that get infracted. Totally bizarre in my opinion.

How do you know that though? You're just assuming that no one besides you ever gets infracted, that isn't true

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Kazanne was only using a metaphor when she was talking about that Candy Apple

Whats Candy Apple ?

[jaxie]

[QUOTE=Toy Soldier;9684285]Considering that the options are that she says racist things and doesn't realise it, or that she says racist things and DOES realise it, I'm actually assuming the best by suggesting that she doesn't. I'd also like to know which insults I've supposedly slung other than stating my opinion that the posts are racist in content... because I'm pretty sure there are none. So we're back to it just being that no one is "allowed to" say that they find a post / post-er to be racist. Why? Why is that opinion invalid? Is it always invalid? Is no one EVER allowed to find ANYTHING to be racist? I'm pretty sure that's the answer that's being driven for here and it's just ****ing nonsense.[/QUOTE

But Brillo isn't the only member you pick on like the local bully. Who are you to decide who is racist, or Tory or whatever? There is a huge difference between disagreement and mocking and belittling people.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Only when I don't feel I have been insulting to anyone but they insist on being insulting to me, repeatedly. Having a different opinion in itself is not insulting anyone.

Trouble is those that dish it out don't like it back and those that do it back are, from my experience, the ones that get infracted. Totally bizarre in my opinion.

This is EXACTLY what they did to Sam

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

If you are referring to Sam that not who Im talking about, Im talking about the dozens of fun ,nice posters including Sam ...... not that Sam is not fun and nice, he's a lovely ,funny man who no one had the sense of humour to understand,and because he is also a very intelligent man didn't bode well on here, and as the gang knew he could eat them up and spit them out in a heartbeat, and they hated that ,they love to have the reins, they love to belittle and abuse people who don't fall at their feet, this is why so many people have left, of their own accord,not hounded out as Sam was ,Yes Sam went to far ,no one knows that more than him,but he's a strong,proud man who little men/women tried to belittle, but Sam is made of better stuff, he wouldn't stand for it ,so in the end he was removed ,but he's never been happier away from it all ,he's got an amazing family he doesn't need praise from a stranger on a keyboard sat in a grubby bedroom
Ive been here many years ,and seen the change in this place and the people who frequent it ,and I've seen the nice people leave because it got too much for them ,sad really

Chuff im sorry but you bang about nice fun posters leaving, the forum has changed and so on due to 'not so nice' members, whilst continuously insulting forum members in these sort of posts its completely hypocritical tbqh.

And im really intrigued to know who these dozens of members are that have left, when as far as i can see 1 or 2 members have left due to different issues on the forum, others have been banned for obvious reasons.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Whats Candy Apple ?

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I am going to shave my head,pour some syrup on it , put a stick up my arse and dress as a toffee apple . Apologies to all apples who maybe offended.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

This is EXACTLY what they did to Sam

Oh give over Chuff, Sam 100% deserved his ban, you don't even know the half of it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree Kaz. God forbid anyone should not be a Corbyn supporter, or at least on the Left. Look at all those who are not left-leaning who have found it necessary to leave this place. I have lost three friends on this forum because they obviously cannot be friends with someone who is not of the same political persuasion as they are - luckily that's not the case actually in parliament. It's supposed to be about debate. It USED to be about debate. Not it's about smart-arse comments and ganging up, and all the denials in the world isn't going to change that when the evidence is there. The hostility is palpable on here now. And what a waste of time it would be to report anyone.

Anyhoo... I too am not on here a lot anymore. I prefer the company of adults and there are far fewer here than there used to be. Everyone's always right on this forum so what's the point of debating with anyone?

Ah,Livia a voice of reason,I do find TIBB of late very childish,can't seem to find an adult to debate with properly, the few that do come here leave or are pushed out the door, and I agree it is hostile,I dont always post but I do look at the forum and anyone with a brain cell can see what happens everytimee brillo posts,I wonder sometimes if TIBB actually wants new posters tbh . Lovely to see you post again though as always.