[Cherie]

18 pages and no lock, I think as a group we are moving forward airing our grievances in a mature and adult fashion ..how long can it last

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

i need to join a better circle, the knitting circle has zero gossip

They have plenty gossip. They just forget what they heard by the time they're on their second cuppa.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They have plenty gossip. They just forget what they heard by the time their on their second cuppa.

I record the conversations so I don't miss a trick

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Marsh and Cherie, earlier

I thought that was Jane Fonda for a second.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No its not

A Zulu says yes.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

18 pages and no lock, I think as a group we are moving forward airing our grievances in a mature and adult fashion ..how long can it last

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No need for the sarcasm Josy, I can only comment on Salman as he was on the forum, I know nothing of his activities outside the forum, anymore than I can comment on yours, I am not part of any gossip circle within the forum so am not updated on the goings on that happen off it... all I know is when he was on here he posted about many things and I found him funny, he was then banned with a number of others around the same time if memory serves me correctly and most of them are now back on the forum, I could round on him and say what an awful person he is with no facts to back that up if you like

It wasnt sarcasm it was dissapointment tbh yes youve mentioned before that you know nothing of it but there was plenty of info going round the forum and most members noticed the many multis and the sort of stuff that was posted by them so it is kinda hard to believe that you were completely unaware of any of it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

It wasnt sarcasm it was dissapointment tbh yes youve mentioned before that you know nothing of it but there was plenty of info going round the forum and most members noticed the many multis and the sort of stuff that was posted by them so it is kinda hard to believe that you were completely unaware of any of it.

I was not aware of what went on, not all of us are on 24/7, not saying you are josy, but lots happen all over forum every minute.

[Marsh.]

You wouldn't have needed to be on the forum every minute.

Given what he did it was a big thing on the forum for a long time.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You wouldn't have needed to be on the forum every minute.

Given what he did it was a big thing on the forum for a long time.

Still don't know what went on!

[Kazanne]

I liked Salman too,I have no idea either what went on other than it was something bad as he was banned,which begs the question why are some that were banned allowed back and others aren't ? surely a ban should mean a ban. and whatever happened to Apple? I liked him/her too

[Crimson Dynamo]

if we have learned one thing in this mult-ranging thread, its that the mods and admin are trash and we should usrp them and run this shambles ourselves equally. do away with names and senoirity and just be numbers

A new utopian socialist dawn





I will be number 1, Marsh can be a number 2

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Still don't know what went on!

That's fair enough. Just saying it was an ongoing thing for a long time.

Not a one evening thing where the argument was deleted before morning so anyone not online would've missed it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if we have learned one thing in this mult-ranging thread, its that the mods and admin are trash and we should usrp them and run this shambles ourselves equally. do away with names and senoirity and just be numbers

A new utopian socialist dawn





I will be number 1, Marsh can be a number 2

Here for this if we get to enslave the former mods.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if we have learned one thing in this mult-ranging thread, its that the mods and admin are trash and we should usrp them and run this shambles ourselves equally. do away with names and senoirity and just be numbers

A new utopian socialist dawn





I will be number 1, Marsh can be a number 2

not sure number 2 is a rank I'de want,LOL

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You wouldn't have needed to be on the forum every minute.

Given what he did it was a big thing on the forum for a long time.

To be fair I had no idea about any of it (until today) either, probably because I'm not in GenChat / Private Threads / Chat.

It sounds like what happened is a long way beyond the usual forum stuff, though, IMO he's lucky to just be banned from a forum .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair I had no idea about any of it (until today) either, probably because I'm not in GenChat / Private Threads / Chat.

It sounds like what happened is a long way beyond the usual forum stuff, though, IMO he's lucky to just be banned from a forum .

Very lucky. I think it came incredibly close to being a police matter tbh.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I liked Salman too,I have no idea either what went on other than it was something bad as he was banned,which begs the question why are some that were banned allowed back and others aren't ? surely a ban should mean a ban. and whatever happened to Apple? I liked him/her too

Depends on what the actual members in question did really doesn't it. I don't want to go into the behind the scenes stuff so will use a real life way tyo try and explain that decision I believe you are a teacher or work with kids? So this example should make sense, if I write it right

A, B, C, D and E are a group of friends. The group of friends decide to pick on F. A is abusive towards F over a period of time, culminating in A physically attacking F. B, C, D and E will lightly taunt occasionally, or maybe encourage A to be nasty. Would it be fair to punish all members of the group in exactly the same way? All should be punished for their parts, yes. But IMO, A deserves a harsher punishment.

The analogy is not perfect, or even entirely representative as I don't really want to drag it all up again. Just trying to explain why some bans are longer than others

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

A deserves a harsher punishment.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

18 pages and no lock, I think as a group we are moving forward airing our grievances in a mature and adult fashion ..how long can it last

Yes, most staff agree that every once in a while, its useful to just let members thrash it out among themselves rather than locking or deleting and that. I came to the thread late so missed most of it, but I agree with the other staffs decisions to leave it to run a bit as its overdue tbh. And it seems most posters in this section have had their say. And bar a few obvious baiting posts, its gone pretty well I think

Serious debates should really be an area where differences CAN be worked out with dialogue to be honest. Yes, it gets heated. This is why we do not tend to moderate quite as harshly in this section as others...as its entirely natural to get a bit worked up in topic that you are very passionate about.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

People are going to get very serious when we start talking about Brexit. There's a lot of anger towards the ruling elites in the way Brexit is being handled and so its a very heady topic. I sit on the side of Brexit, but I see some very emotive and intelligent discussion get ignored and ridiculed by posters with comments like, "we voted out. We are leaving. Get over it" sort comments. Its a discussion on here that's never taken off because one side wants to talk about it and the other side want to shut that discussion down. Its a shame but it is what it is and I can fully see why people get frustrated.

Well what do you expect when the other side of the coin keeps implying you were stupid or duped to vote for brexit? Saying we are leaving get over is a pretty tame response to being called an idiot IMO.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well what do you expect when the other side of the coin keeps implying you were stupid or duped to vote for brexit? Saying we are leaving get over is a pretty tame response to being called an idiot IMO.

Its exactly this kind of tit for tat stuff that should stop. Its that rubbish thats ruining this forum. Yes both sides are guilty at times too.. (though specifically on the brexit thing, I think most voters in general were unaware on what they were actually voting for due to the ridiculous media campaigns built on lies)

Its actually painful for me to read this forum at times, as I remember how decent it used to be and now half the posts seem to be 'ner ner you said this about me so I am saying this about you' rather than much actual reasoned discussion on stuff. This is partly why I took the hardlined reponse to moderation in here, which did result in some actions that may have been OTT at times and clearly didn't work given I ended up flouncing in the mod thread a few days ago and claiming I am not longer modding this section at all as everyone just ignores me

I hope, and this may be overly optimistic, that since this thread has cleared the air a bit and let everyone speak in depth, and also mods to explain a little of quite how moderation works...maybe this section can go back to being half decent. And from now hopefully, stop the tit for tat stuff. The bickering and pointless posts ruin this section. I don't think its fair to lay the blame on any few posters. Or on either 'side'. there is a huge difference between debating, and bickering.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Speak for yourself,I find brillos posts interesting and thought provoking,she must be sick of the insults she gets in here,no wonder people leave, 'funny how you feel comfortable insulting someone who has a differing opinion to you,I notice you soon dive in with your 'weary' posts to try being a smart arse and belittling brillo,or trying to, it's not working,you sound like a bit of a bully tbh.

Of course several people have grown weary of her posts! Her posts have led to a 20 page discussion. Me saying that barely makes me a bully, it's evidently entirely accurate. there are actually far worse (and more accurate) ways to describe brillos posting style but I reframed for the sake of it, you on the other hand... You personally not being bothered by (at the best) baity childishness or (at worst) actual racism is up to you.

Don't see anybody else on this forum ever be accused of racism, not even banned members really. So maybe we all need to have a think as to the single reason why that may be. The answer will shock you.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Josy

It wasnt sarcasm it was dissapointment tbh yes youve mentioned before that you know nothing of it but there was plenty of info going round the forum and most members noticed the many multis and the sort of stuff that was posted by them so it is kinda hard to believe that you were completely unaware of any of it.

No idea about any of it TBH.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well what do you expect when the other side of the coin keeps implying you were stupid or duped to vote for brexit? Saying we are leaving get over is a pretty tame response to being called an idiot IMO.

I doubt anyone called you an idiot. I've read most of those threads and the worst I've seen anti-Brexiteers come up with is the suggestion that people were conned by the likes of Boris and Nigel. Nobody regardless of what side you're sitting on can disagree about the lies. Whilst there may have been comments about stupidity, why would anyone take that as a personal slant against them? Those who voted out all had their own reason for doing so. Talking about those reasons shouldn't be a sore point.

I voted out and I've never felt insulted by the anti-Brexit crowd on here, so what are you seeing that I'm not?