[Black Dagger]

Thank is one word I guess.

[Morgan.]

I like Jack but he'll have the Jordan Banjo/Ola Jordan effect where they're known but not known enough to get votes from people. I always voted for Jordan and Ola but they didn't have big enough fan bases </3

[Withano]

I think people should broaden their definition of celebrity tbh. It shouldnt always be tv-related, there are other ways to make a name for yourself. Over one million people are subscribed to a channel that is dedicated to him, personally. Nobody watches Towie for only the Fearne bits.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think people should broaden their definition of celebrity tbh. It shouldnt always be tv-related, there are other ways to make a name for yourself. Over one million people are subscribed to a channel that is dedicated to him, personally. Nobody watches Towie for only the Fearne bits.

Fully agree.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think people should broaden their definition of celebrity tbh. It shouldnt always be tv-related, there are other ways to make a name for yourself. Over one million people are subscribed to a channel that is dedicated to him, personally. Nobody watches Towie for only the Fearne bits.

No one is saying it has to be tv famous because zoella is famous because she is known youtuber unlike this guy.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No one is saying it has to be tv famous because zoella is famous because she is known youtuber unlike this guy.

Well theres always gonna be someone more famous.

Like I never heard of Fearne or Vicky before their series.. and I did know of some of the towie and gs cast.. but the fact of there being more famous people on towie and gs didnt detract from these two being relatively famous.

[Denver]

You all wanked over Trisha though

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think people should broaden their definition of celebrity tbh. It shouldnt always be tv-related, there are other ways to make a name for yourself. Over one million people are subscribed to a channel that is dedicated to him, personally. Nobody watches Towie for only the Fearne bits.

I think most have a pretty broad definition already, people don't have to be on TV to qualify and frankly I have no idea where you plucked that from anyway

The fact remains he is little known and only known at all because his brother used to be famous. Actually looking at his video views and comments compared to his followers I bet his followers are bought. 1 million followers and his biggest video only has just over 7000 comments? surrre.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You all wanked over Trisha though

Because she is a messy train wreck. Not through thirst which is why you like this guy

[Denver]

Where have I said I liked him

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I think most have a pretty broad definition already, people don't have to be on TV to qualify and frankly I have no idea where you plucked that from anyway

The fact remains he is little known and only known at all because his brother used to be famous. Actually looking at his video views and comments compared to his followers I bet his followers are bought. 1 million followers and his biggest video only has just over 7000 comments? surrre.

I don't think he's little known though. Over a million people are very interested in him, personally, whereas only ~800k people were watching the latest series of towie which has several cast members. Maths would suggest he's better known than your average rtv star.

[Denver]

Some of his videos have close to 10 million views much more then the Youtubers you all raved about in the past

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't think he's little known though. Over a million people are very interested in him, personally, whereas only ~800k people were watching the latest series of towie which has several cast members. Maths would suggest he's better known than your average rtv star.

Youtube subs can be bought. I believe his are.

Towie may only get 800k views but as I stated earlier in the thread they are still pretty well known in general. I can guarantee you 90% of the audience will not know who Joe Maynard is.

[Denver]

Basically if Amy doesnt like the person they dont qualify as a celeb

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't think he's little known though. Over a million people are very interested in him, personally, whereas only ~800k people were watching the latest series of towie which has several cast members. Maths would suggest he's better known than your average rtv star.

You make out he’s known and someone like beyonce all because he has 1 million subscribers which can easily be brought but that isn’t many compared to other yotubers who are known. He is a nobody and not known at all only by the minority. Towie gets like a million viewers. Your maths is wrong.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Youtube subs can be bought. I believe his are.

Towie may only get 800k views but as I stated earlier in the thread they are still pretty well known in general. I can guarantee you 90% of the audience will not know who Joe Maynard is.

Im honestly not taking the piss, I have no idea who that is. I think you've overestimated how many people care for these rtv shows lol. I also think you're underestimating how many people watch Youtube. Most kids and teens watch more Youtube than they do TV.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Youtube subs can be bought. I believe his are.

Towie may only get 800k views but as I stated earlier in the thread they are still pretty well known in general. I can guarantee you 90% of the audience will not know who Joe Maynard is.

Towie does get 1 million sometimes but you are right. The only maynard that is known is conor.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Basically if Amy doesnt like the person they dont qualify as a celeb

I don't not like him I had no idea who he was until he was rumoured for IAC so that makes no sense

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I don't not like him I had no idea who he was until he was rumoured for IAC so that makes no sense

Most of iac viewers teas

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LukeB

You make out he’s known and someone like beyonce all because he has 1 million subscribers which can easily be brought but that isn’t many compared to other yotubers who are known. He is a nobody and not known at all only by the minority. Towie gets like a million viewers. Your maths is wrong.

Between September and October this year, Towie got between 656k and 921k viewers on their weekly show, and none of those viewers were tuning in for one specific cast member, which is unlike Jacks Youtube subscriber count.

I think the bloke is just as famous, if not more famous than the average rtv star - its just not a conventional 'fame'

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Withano

Im honestly not taking the piss, I have no idea who that is. I think you've overestimated how many people care for these rtv shows lol. I also think you're underestimating how many people watch Youtube. Most kids and teens watch more Youtube than they do TV.

I think if anyone is overestimating anyone it's you implying he will bring viewers. Trisha Paytas had more subs than this guy and CBB's viewership was the same as normal and actually improved when she pissed off

[Denver]

He has over 9 million views on certain videos fgs and made more more than that fat bitch who broke the BBC stage

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I think if anyone is overestimating anyone it's you implying he will bring viewers. Trisha Paytas had more subs than this guy and CBB's viewership was the same as normal and actually improved when she pissed off

Thats not my point at all, people were complaining he wasnt famous - i think he is just as famous, or more famous than half the iac contestants. I dunno if he will bring in viewers, that was never my argument. (Although i guess there may be slightly more international interest because of him this series).

[Amy Jade]

Adam you're a mess, you call Gemma fat in any thread you can but if anyone called someone you like fat like the three women in your sig you pretend to be offended.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Withano

Between September and October this year, Towie got between 656k and 921k viewers on their weekly show, and none of those viewers were tuning in for one specific cast member, which is unlike Jacks Youtube subscriber count.

I think the bloke is just as famous, if not more famous than the average rtv star - its just not a conventional 'fame'

As i said can easily be brought and it’s easy having a famous sibling you know, the average rtv star are still way known then this nobody. Iac hasn’t had the average rtv star. Mark,joey,gemma,vicky,spencer and ferne where the above average stars of their shows when they had over million viewers.

Dfs advert woman is more famous then this guy. You may as well cast anyone from advert if you’re going to cast this guy.