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Originally Posted by Vicky.

I would also agree with this. And I used to be (forgive the phrase) a 'corbyn fangirl' pretty much. I thought he was brilliant, I thought he would 'save us'. I am starting to see a very different side to him (and a different side to Momentum also)

I think this is also why the Tories are supporting it all. To win votes that would otherwise go to Labour. With no thought to how it will affect the majority of the population. Very very ill judged, from both parties.

I think too..some people think this is similar to the fight for gay rights. Its not at all. Gay people wanted to be accepted for who they are. They were not proposing taking rights away from another group, they wanted their own rights. This is entirely different. Doesn't help that Stonewall added the T to LGB..which confuses people that little bit more. Ruth Hunt is a ****ing disgrace on this issue, truly. Shes throwing Lesbians especially under the bus. She refuses to comment on the amount of people who would otherwise simply be lesbian adults who are 'transed' as kids. Refuses to comment on the amount of lesbian adults who decide they are actually men so that they do not receive lesbophobic abuse anymore...and so on. She is who should be standing up for the rights of lesbians, being a butch lesbian herself ffs. But no, she won't comment and instead focuses all of her attention on 'trans'. Meanwhile, lesbians are being told they are transphobic for not sucking ladydick and such. Lesbians are deciding they are actually trans to escape the abuse they get as lesbians...more and more kids who would otherwise grow up to be gay are being given puberty blockers then cross sex hormones..and she won't comment at all. Absolutely mental.

Ironically, I think that one of the groups that all of this is MOST harmful to is actually transitioned / actively transitioning transsexuals. They are probably seen by one side as being supportive of all of it even if they aren't, and by the other as some sort of "traitor" if they have an opinion that deviates from the one that's prescribed. Can you imagine if a fully transitioned transexual responded to a "transwomen are women baaaah" mantra tweet with "Well, hold on a minute, I didn't consider myself a woman until after reassignment surgery"? They would be utterly slaughtered like some sort of defector.