[Brillopad]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...eversible.html

This is good news. Diabetes is one of our biggest killers and costing the NHS a fortune. It was previously believed to be irreversible so to know there is some hope for those diagnosed is reassuring.

[Denver]

This has been known for ages?

[Kizzy]

I watched a film called 'Fat sick and nearly dead' a couple of years ago just after I was diagnosed pre- diabetic. I did a juice cleanse for 8 weeks and got myself right.

Surprised I didn't make a thread on it, bored everyone to death I know about it

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I watched a film called 'Fat sick and nearly dead' a couple of years ago just after I was diagnosed pre- diabetic. I did a juice cleanse for 8 weeks and got myself right.

Surprised I didn't make a thread on it, bored everyone to death I know about it

That couldn't have been easy. But it can be done and that is great news.

[Kizzy]

It was VERY hard at first, it's a detox so you feel really bad for the first few days with cravings, headaches, mood swings and lethargy then comes the 'healing crisis' where you feel sick ache all over your body...
Once you get past that and you get into a rhythm and find juices you enjoy it gets better, it's up to you then how long you do it for I also lost almost 3 stone, much of what was viceral fat,which might account for the improvement in my bloods as I also have fatty liver disease.

I also think the 5-2 diet would work for this or alternate fasting, anything that lets the body have a rest from digesting food and get into repair mode. It's less extreme too for those who have busy lives.

[jaxie]

That's good news. My father was a diabetic and lost both of his legs. It's a terrible disease with horrible side effects for those suffering from it.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was VERY hard at first, it's a detox so you feel really bad for the first few days with cravings, headaches, mood swings and lethargy then comes the 'healing crisis' where you feel sick ache all over your body...
Once you get past that and you get into a rhythm and find juices you enjoy it gets better, it's up to you then how long you do it for I also lost almost 3 stone, much of what was viceral fat,which might account for the improvement in my bloods as I also have fatty liver disease.

I also think the 5-2 diet would work for this or alternate fasting, anything that lets the body have a rest from digesting food and get into repair mode. It's less extreme too for those who have busy lives.

Hat off to you for that. Takes some willpower. Whenever I try to give up something I'm not very successful as I give in to the early symptoms - cravings, lethargy etc. I have worried a few times that I might have diabetes from eating too many sugary foods but had some bloods and was okay. Will try harder next time though.

[Brillopad]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ew-study-shows

Good news - but one that seemed fairly obvious. Type 2 diabetes is caused by lifestyle ie a bad diet and lack of exercise - leading to weight gain and co-morbidities. A common self-inflicted condition. Those with type 2 diabetes need to reverse the condition before it does too much damage to their organs and eyesight and becomes irreversible.

[Denver]

This isnt new news? My mums reversed 4 years back maybe 3

[Kizzy]

This is the second time you've started this thread... :/

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...087&highlight=

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

This is the second time you've started this thread... :/

So I did. Forgotten all about that. Oops.

[DemolitionRed]

Unfortunately there's something called drug induced diabetes. People reliant on a certain type of medication (long term) can't just stop taking it. There are also people who have to take hormone medication that causes obesity and that obesity often leads to type 1 and sometimes type 2

[user104658]

I did remember this thread being posted before - major deja vu for a second there .

I'm sure I actually read something recently about a major contributor the the rise in Type 2 diabetes actually being "diet sweeteners", i.e. Aspartame, Acesulfame K etc etc... they also apparently aggravate anxiety disorders. So basically if you want to beat it, you need to completely rethink diet from the ground up, rather than replace sugar with sweeteners, and other "low fat options".

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

I did remember this thread being posted before - major deja vu for a second there .

I'm sure I actually read something recently about a major contributor the the rise in Type 2 diabetes actually being "diet sweeteners", i.e. Aspartame, Acesulfame K etc etc... they also apparently aggravate anxiety disorders. So basically if you want to beat it, you need to completely rethink diet from the ground up, rather than replace sugar with sweeteners, and other "low fat options".

It’s as we have always been told - there are no quick fixes and no easy routes to losing weight to look better and be healthier. People have to make an effort.

If they don’t they will be the losers as well as the NHS who will suffer financially. People need to take responsibility before they become to ill to do so.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Unfortunately there's something called drug induced diabetes. People reliant on a certain type of medication (long term) can't just stop taking it. There are also people who have to take hormone medication that causes obesity and that obesity often leads to type 1 and sometimes type 2

That is true - but the condition is out of control now and that is mainly due to lifestyle and why we now have weight management programmes as part of NHS treatment plans.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

I watched a film called 'Fat sick and nearly dead' a couple of years ago just after I was diagnosed pre- diabetic. I did a juice cleanse for 8 weeks and got myself right.

Surprised I didn't make a thread on it, bored everyone to death I know about it

You did do a thread on your juice diet, I remember it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Candy Cane

You did do a thread on your juice diet, I remember it

I'm doing it again in January... I'll make another thread

[smudgie]

Yeah, it was 600 calories last time, now it's 800, consisting of 4 drinks/soups a day and nothing else for 17 weeks.
If only life was that simple.
Eating sugary foods doesn't give you diabetes anymore than eating fatty foods, it's the fat around your pancreas that stop them working, hence they then can't control the sugar balances in your body.
You can really crave sugar if you are diabetic as your body is telling you it needs it when you probably don't. You can also eat sugary foods if you are diabetic but you need to control the cravings.
Not all diabetics are overweight, let alone obese.
Some families are more prone, if it's in the family then you have a higher chance of developing it.i stood no chance..both sides of my family have it.
The less you eat as a diabetic then the lower your sugar levels will be, that's the easy bit, it's stopping it going too low you have to watch out for...coma in your sleep can be deadly.
We are all different, I could lose my appetite for months on end and eat only sweets and sugary treats and still end up losing weight and having hypos every morning to a dangerous degree.
Finding the best balance for the individual is best.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by NanaChristmas

Yeah, it was 600 calories last time, now it's 800, consisting of 4 drinks/soups a day and nothing else for 17 weeks.
If only life was that simple.
Eating sugary foods doesn't give you diabetes anymore than eating fatty foods, it's the fat around your pancreas that stop them working, hence they then can't control the sugar balances in your body.
You can really crave sugar if you are diabetic as your body is telling you it needs it when you probably don't. You can also eat sugary foods if you are diabetic but you need to control the cravings.
Not all diabetics are overweight, let alone obese.
Some families are more prone, if it's in the family then you have a higher chance of developing it.i stood no chance..both sides of my family have it.
The less you eat as a diabetic then the lower your sugar levels will be, that's the easy bit, it's stopping it going too low you have to watch out for...coma in your sleep can be deadly.
We are all different, I could lose my appetite for months on end and eat only sweets and sugary treats and still end up losing weight and having hypos every morning to a dangerous degree.
Finding the best balance for the individual is best.

Yes, no, yes, no!

Sugar is a carbohydrate and if you eat too much of any carbs and don't burn them off in energy, it gets stored as body fat. Your right that you don't need to look obese. You can layer your organs with fat whilst still looking quite trim. Fatty liver disease is often found in young slim but inactive people, though it affects obese people too. So sugary foods don't give you diabetes so long as you burn those sugars off and avoid putting a fat layer around your pancreas (I'm talking type 2)

Are you type 1 or type 2? You sound like a type 1

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yes, no, yes, no!

Sugar is a carbohydrate and if you eat too much of any carbs and don't burn them off in energy, it gets stored as body fat. Your right that you don't need to look obese. You can layer your organs with fat whilst still looking quite trim. Fatty liver disease is often found in young slim but inactive people, though it affects obese people too. So sugary foods don't give you diabetes so long as you burn those sugars off and avoid putting a fat layer around your pancreas (I'm talking type 2)

Are you type 1 or type 2? You sound like a type 1

Insulin dependant type 2.
Yes, fatty liver is awful, but the pancreas is the beggar to let you down big time.
Sugar in just about everything you eat, even stuff we think of as healthy.
What with high purines that cause gout, the diabetes and ruddy kidney failure if I stuck to only what I can eat I reckon I would be living in water and cheese.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by NanaChristmas

Insulin dependant type 2.
Yes, fatty liver is awful, but the pancreas is the beggar to let you down big time.
Sugar in just about everything you eat, even stuff we think of as healthy.
What with high purines that cause gout, the diabetes and ruddy kidney failure if I stuck to only what I can eat I reckon I would be living in water and cheese.

It must suck but in some ways your better off on insulin because its a med that's much more natural and recetptive to the body.

My husband has none alcoholic fatty liver disease and he's as lean as a lamppost. He's treated as a diabetic in the eye clinic, though he's not diabetic. They think it was caused by drinking large amounts of orange juice. He used to drink it to excess before he became ill. He's now, thanks to following doctors orders, as fit as a fiddle and his liver function is looking really good . At one point though they were talking about a liver transplant.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

It must suck but in some ways your better off on insulin because its a med that's much more natural and recetptive to the body.

My husband has none alcoholic fatty liver disease and he's as lean as a lamppost. He's treated as a diabetic in the eye clinic, though he's not diabetic. They think it was caused by drinking large amounts of orange juice. He used to drink it to excess before he became ill. He's now, thanks to following doctors orders, as fit as a fiddle and his liver function is looking really good . At one point though they were talking about a liver transplant.

Liver transplant..that's awful DR, pleased to hear he didn't need it and he is on the mend and his liver function has improved.
I had liver failure (nothing to do with fatty liver or alcohol) when I was younger, that's what led to most of my problems today in a roundabout way.