[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza

In all fairness they had their moment, why didn't they succeed? Were they not vocal enough for the greater good in the way that corbyn is...

Personally my issue with the moderates in the Labour party are they to me appear to be the ones appeasing business for a slice of whichever sector pie is on offer and bugger society.
Corbyn is attractive to be for effectively saying sod your pie, I don't want it... I'm going to fit on the floor of this train and eat a nice apple with the public!


That's why he gets my vote.

And you don’t think that is exactly what he wants you to think, which of course maybe why he does it. He is playing the ‘caring’ card.

Even if you are right about him and he is more genuine than I give him credit for, which I have severe reservations about, he is surrounding himself with some very dubious characters who will likely be making a lot of the important decisions which for many is a very scary prospect.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And you don’t think that is exactly what he wants you to think, which of course maybe why he does it. He is playing the ‘caring’ card.

Even if you are right about him and he is more genuine than I give him credit for, which I have severe reservations about, he is surrounding himself with some very dubious characters who will likely be making a lot of the important decisions which for many is a very scary prospect.

Were you not one concerned with CETA pre brexit? david davis today stated that Canada +++ is our most viable option... so that's a certainty now.

Who else will be our trading partners? Will they have dubious human rights records, how will we make our money more babykilla bombs for SA?

So he may be playing a card, I'll take that risk because may isn't, she is very openly expressing her support for a 'meritocracy' which means that your chances of survival are limited by your own capability to in the 'laisez faire '
sense... you are as is the founding ideology of conservatism 'cut adrift'..

I would go further and suggest that recent policy has rendered many vulnerable groups almost entirely unsupported and the support they do have is from the third sector (volunteers) or in other words 'society'.

Why have they done this? I was reading recently about another organisation, I won't say which where a similar thing happened the rights and provision for these groups were removed and they were considered nothing but 'useless eaters' (clue).

This is where we are at now, it's scary just how deep in the rabbit hole we are and yet the establishment is not considered corrupt but our guiding light overlords steering Britain to safety away from the evil EU.... When in actuality they've smashed the UK to pieces poisoned minds against our European nations with whom we share cultural and democratic ties for what?.... the WTO?.. With the BRIC countries who think human rights are a Eurovision song contest entry?!


Pfffft!!!