[user104658]

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

Sponsored by Strepsils?

Nah... http://www.bristolrope.co.uk

[Crimson Dynamo]

That film about our last hangman with Tim Spall was very good

The hangman's knot or hangman's noose (also known as a collar during the Elizabethan era) is a knot most often associated with its use in hanging a person. For a hanging, the knot of the rope is typically placed under or just behind the left ear, although the most effective position is just ahead of the ear, beneath the angle of the left lower jaw. The pull on the knot at the end of the drop levers the jaw and head violently up and to the right, which combines with the jerk of the rope becoming taut to wrench the upper neck vertebrae apart. This produces very rapid death, whereas the traditional position beneath the ear was intended to result in the mass of the knot crushing closed (occluding) the neck arteries, causing cessation of brain circulation. The knot is non-jamming but tends to resist attempts to loosen it.

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[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Oh Dezzy, now I see why people get exasperated with you. The difference between the two statements was I was saying I feel its too easy whilst you were saying that people who think its too easy have no experience. Opinion versus blanket statement. I really don't care that much about it and had no sense of outrage as you put it but wanted to get it across that people who think it is too easy CAN and DO have experiences other than yours.

Wow, any need to get personal like that?

As for the bolded bit, When have I ever said that what I felt was anything but my own opinion based on my own experiences? In my own opinion and experiences, it's often the case that people who think prison is easy and want it made harder for inmates often have no experience of what prison is like, is your experiences different? Good for you but it doesn't invalidate my opinion any more than mine invalidates yours. Our experiences are our own and you need to accept that other people have opinions and experiences different to your own.

You went on the attack here, not me. Remember that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

so how do you know why they did that then?

Google is your friend.

[Chero]

I think it's much better to have them rot in prison. Unfortunately, in the US, we still have the death penalty, and every year, there are people who have been on death row who they find out were innocent. If our process wasn't so slow, we'd have killed a lot more innocent people already. Also, in the US, in some states, people who are mentally retarded or juveniles have been given the death penalty.

I feel that it is much better for someone who has committed an awful crime to spend their life in prison. That way they have the rest of their life to think about what they did. I'll admit, I was glad when Charles Manson died the other day. And I totally oppose paroling any of his cohorts. I'm glad that one woman has changed her life around in prison, but the people she killed are still dead, so I feel she should stay in prison, as long as they're still dead. I mean, just because I don't like capital punishment, doesn't mean I want any of these killers running around town.

[Jamie89]

Never, I find it barbaric tbh. Plus you might be certain that somebody is guilty of a crime when they are actually innocent. For all the emotional arguments along the lines of "how would you feel if a loved one was the victim of a horrendous crime", you could also say "how would you feel if you or a loved one was wrongly sentenced to the death penalty". Regardless, as others have already discussed, I don't think decisions like this should be based on raw emotion.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Nutcracker Sweet

For those people who think it's terribly wrong to kill someone who has inflicted fear and pain onto kids and people,and a lifetime of unhappiness for their families, but it's ok to do the very same to some animals so you can eat them, that sounds logical.

Did you just compare children to poultry?

[Withano]

Ugh I just wrote a long post and then my ipad crashed.

No, it shouldn't be brought back.

Justifying reasons why a person should be murdered is exactly what murderers do. I find it strange to see so many people here doing this. Nobody has the right to take away a human life, not even the government.

[thesheriff443]

If someone is capable of killing another human being and even cutting them up intolittle bits or burning them, I don't think they are going to find prison a horrible place.

[thesheriff443]

Repeat offenders, they did not find prison that bad!, because they come out and re offend.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Repeat offenders, they did not find prison that bad!, because they come out and re offend.

There is a huge amount of mental illness in our prisons, especially with repeat offenders.

But here's a question: If someone commits murder and is deemed to have a mental illness, do the people who believe in the death sentence think those people should be put down too?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

There is a huge amount of mental illness in our prisons, especially with repeat offenders.

But here's a question: If someone commits murder and is deemed to have a mental illness, do the people who believe in the death sentence think those people should be put down too?

People claim to have mental illness to avoid prison or the death penalty, by being put into a secure hospital.

Are those people with mental illness who kill and are deemed to unstable to be ever let out, should these people be killed, in my opinion yes.

Child killers need to be put to death.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Repeat offenders, they did not find prison that bad!, because they come out and re offend.

The vast (VAST) majority of crime is either drug related, for financial gain, or a combination of the two. In the case of the former, people simply come of out of prison and go straight back to drugs, often because it's their entire life, and so re-offending at some point is inevitable. When it's crime for financial gain, often the people involved don't know how else to support themselves - and have even less chance of doing so once they have a criminal conviction - so as soon as they get out they go straight back to crime to financially support themselves.

It's not really about it "not being that bad"... some people simply don't know any other way to live, so reoffending is inevitable.

[Livia]

No to capital punishment, yes to a life sentence meaning a whole life, and with the option of handing down that sentence without the option of parole.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

No to capital punishment, yes to a life sentence meaning a whole life, and with the option of handing down that sentence without the option of parole.

I agree with this.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Livia

No to capital punishment, yes to a life sentence meaning a whole life, and with the option of handing down that sentence without the option of parole.

I'm all for this. People like Brady and Hindley got a proper life sentence and that's how it should be for premeditated murder.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

No to capital punishment, yes to a life sentence meaning a whole life, and with the option of handing down that sentence without the option of parole.

Absolutely right.

[Cherie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39493841

A British man will have a chance to win his freedom after more than 30 years in a Florida jail.
A US appeals court on Tuesday granted a new hearing for Kris Maharaj, 78, who has been jailed for more than 30 years for a 1986 double murder in Miami.
The ruling means that Maharaj's lawyers will be able to present new evidence which they say proves the two men were killed by members of a drug cartel.
His lawyer claims a Colombian hit man killed Derrick and Duane Moo Young.
Maharaj's lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith from human-rights organisation Reprieve, applauded the decision, saying "it is a great day for Kris, and I hope now we will finally get him the justice he has long been denied".
But a spokesman for the Miami-Dade State Attorney's office, Ed Griffith, told BBC News: "We stand by the outcome of the very lengthy and fair evidentiary hearing that Maharaj received in the state court, where the judge found these witnesses and/or claims to not be credible or have any merit."


This guy was interviewed this morning he lived across the hall from where the murders happened... he claims the police protected the real killer as he was working for a drug cartel, and corrupt policemen were involved

[jet]

Originally Posted by Livia

No to capital punishment, yes to a life sentence meaning a whole life, and with the option of handing down that sentence without the option of parole.

I totally agree. If life meant life, then I'd say no to capital punishment for those whose guilt is proven beyond doubt.

[Eddie.]

We are in 2017 ffs! Why would it be brought back?!