[Maru]

Left and right is kinda flawed I think when having this discussion, especially when we're discussing these things on the more extreme ends.

It doesn't matter which side it is anyway. Fascism is Fascism.

PC I actually think is evident on both sides, at least now, because it's been around long enough you now have people who don't really understand the politics of it (like I'm apparently too young to know some of this history). I think most people on both sides genuinely want to reform the West for the better, and that is the issue, because I think when it comes to pushing an idea we view PC as a sort of cultural tool--we equate it's use with "decency"... when really, you don't need to manipulate your words beyond meaning. You just may have to consider consequences of the things you say and do. That's why I feel self-censorship is one of the bigger obstacle(s), as it has allowed more extreme ideologies to dominate the communication about issues. And self-censorship is being conflated with decency and I think that's an issue across the board, not just in education.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Maru

Left and right is kinda flawed I think when having this discussion, especially when we're discussing these things on the more extreme ends.

It doesn't matter which side it is anyway. Fascism is Fascism.

PC I actually think is evident on both sides, at least now, because it's been around long enough you now have people who don't really understand the politics of it (like I'm apparently too young to know some of this history). I think most people on both sides genuinely want to reform the West for the better, and that is the issue, because I think when it comes to pushing an idea we view PC as a sort of cultural tool--we equate it's use with "decency"... when really, you don't need to manipulate your words beyond meaning. You just may have to consider consequences of the things you say and do. That's why I feel self-censorship is one of the bigger obstacle(s), as it has allowed more extreme ideologies to dominate the communication about issues. And self-censorship is being conflated with decency and I think that's an issue across the board, not just in education.

I disagree, extreme ideologies are becoming more mainstream and 'PC' is the equal and opposite reaction to that.
Are we meant to believe that if there were less PC reactions to extreme right wing propaganda it would just stop?.... that's a absolute joke, if it wasn't for the voices screaming that the fascists are emboldened due to their power and influence in modern western democracies in recent times their reach would be entrenched even deeper that they are.

I'm stunned at the suggestion young minds are being demanded from the right, they feel they are being denied a rite that has been a privilege for generations to brainwash the next generation and the theory that they be allowed to choose who they listen to is unthinkable!

Nobody has been 'allowed' to dominate, they just do and any view to the contrary is met with accusations of self censorship? :/