[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yeah definitely, it feels a bit more ................dare I say it? like a social experiment?

Like BB is meant to be.

[parmnion]

They can celebrate whatever they want, its bb...just be fair minded about it all...specially emma...it came across to me like it would have the opposite effect it was meant to.

[Tom4784]

Fragile masculinity abound.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Fragile masculinity abound.

Who is that directed at?

[Tom4784]

Any man that sees women talking about the issues they and others face and get upset over it because they aren't talking about something relating to the man in question. True masculine fragility right there. Any man that tries to downplay sexism or pretend that they've feel like they've been the victim of sexism because they feel victimised by a TV show for having a female focused launch (Good ****ing grief) is fragile and should consider themselves lucky for never having experienced true discrimination if they believe that to be what discrimination is.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Any man that sees women talking about the issues they and others face and get upset over it because they aren't talking about something relating to the man in question. True masculine fragility right there. Any man that tries to downplay sexism or pretend that they've feel like they've been the victim of sexism because they feel victimised by a TV show for having a female focused launch (Good ****ing grief) is fragile and should consider themselves lucky for never having experienced true discrimination if they believe that to be what discrimination is.

They should have gotten 8 woman that have experienced discriminisation for being women rather than these pampered clowns..
Maggie excluded.

[LaLaLand]

It feels like vintage BB, really going to like this.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They should have gotten 8 woman that have experienced discriminisation for being women rather than these pampered clowns..
Maggie excluded.

You say they haven't experienced discrimination but we just watched a video of a few of them earlier saying they couldn't rent flats or buy drinks in a bar before 1975......

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You say they haven't experienced discrimination but we just watched a video of a few of them earlier saying they couldn't rent flats or buy drinks in a bar before 1975......

They said it themselves on live feed last night...not one of them could come up with anything when asked if they had experienced discrimination due to their sex...apart from one who was expected to make a cup of tea in 1982.

[Denver]

Well India is being discriminated everyday because of her gender including by a few on this forumu who refuse to call her a woman

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They said it themselves on live feed last night...not one of them could come up with anything when asked if they had experienced discrimination due to their sex...apart from one who was expected to make a cup of tea in 1982.

Did you not hear them on the video posted though, Amanda said she couldn't rent a flat because she was woman, Ann said there were job adverts in the paper for the same role with wages for a man and different ones for a woman .......

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Well India is being discriminated everyday because of her gender including by a few on this forumu who refuse to call her a woman

I don't mind calling her a woman. Though do you have a definition of woman that includes male people? Noone seems to be able to do this so I am extremely curious.

India is definitely not 'female' though. So billing it as an all female launch with someone who is not female is quite silly.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Some intelligent conversation about the past and how far we've come or a bunch of reality stars doing their best to hog the airtime? hhmmm I know which i prefer, like the good ol days of C4 BB

Three days of this and poor ratings and we'll get another 4in4out.