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but to try to pretend that it's a new thing and one that mainly affects the discussions of women's issues is simply false and deeply ironic.

Her idea that this is a new thing that men have come up with to shoot down women's issues and her "clever" buzzwording is utterly useless, meaningless and misguided.

Its not really an idea men have to shoot down womens issues I don't think. Like, its not something thats done intentionally. But it IS true (from my experience and probably a lot of other peoples too) that discussing anything to do with women brings out a lot of 'what about men' where (again in my experience, not suggesting it does not ever happen) talking about something to support men does not bring out a bunch of 'what about women'. Also (yet again from experience) it doesn't tend to be men saying 'what about the men' it seems to be women much more often!

if we have to use the term, plagues the discussion of men's mental health, rights and other issues FAR more than the other way around

Completely disagree there.

Edit. Look at one of the replies to her ffs, and the following thread https://twitter.com/jamesmglen76/sta...75181322854400