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Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think he and Shane J keep themselves to themselves much of the time...they live in the smoking area...all the housemates think they are 'sweet' together and when Andrew does mix he just licks their arses...and does all his bitching with Shane j...
They need to reveal his bitching to the rest of the housemates...apart from Malika they are the only ones who seem to bitch IMO.

Ann bitches too (like the whole thing with about staying up drinking), but she's been up for nom a lot so it's not like it's been "hidden"...

Tbf, most have all bitched to some degree. I think that is pretty normal behavior when you are forced to live with people you wouldn't normally choose to be around so often. I think what is distasteful about Andrew's particular brew of bitchery is that the goal seems to be more slanderous, than critical... he doesn't just complain like "Oh the lights are too bright", it's more slandering other people he doesn't agree with... and it's ShaneJ's lack of challenging this behavior which makes him look complicit, hence less popular, etc (edit)

But I will say, in past series I think we would've heard way more bitching, slandering and slagging off. This group is actually quite tolerant towards each other, comparatively speaking...