[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

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I think its human nature for a lot of people to have a fundamental need to look up to and admire someone we consider honorable or flawless or admirable.

But it's imaginary; they aren't.

I look up to Kate as flawless and graceful

But it's imaginary, she isn't. At the end of many a day she no doubt lies down next to her husband and says "Do you know what Wills? Pretending to be perfect and graceful all day is ****ing exhausting!"

Look what it did to Diana ffs. Did we really learn nothing? She was adored as an unrealistic avatar of flawlessness and grace and the pressure of that image made her hugely unhappy... I think she would be spinning circles in her grave looking at the images of William, Kate and their children splashed all over the tabloids. She would surely be hugely worried for them, as she always was for herself and her boys.


They are flawed. All people are flawed. And believing otherwise, believing that there is such a thing as a flawless or "superior" type of human, is really detrimental to the vast majority of people. It's hard to see that because it's been something we've been doing forever but it's a psychological mess. It's an unrealistic idea of what a human being actually is, and it contributes massively to people NOT accepting each other's flaws. And surely you can't argue that as a society, currently, we are generally accepting of each other's flaws?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But it's imaginary; they aren't.



But it's imaginary, she isn't. At the end of many a day she no doubt lies down next to her husband and says "Do you know what Wills? Pretending to be perfect and graceful all day is ****ing exhausting!"

Look what it did to Diana ffs. Did we really learn nothing? She was adored as an unrealistic avatar of flawlessness and grace and the pressure of that image made her hugely unhappy... I think she would be spinning circles in her grave looking at the images of William, Kate and their children splashed all over the tabloids. She would surely be hugely worried for them, as she always was for herself and her boys.


They are flawed. All people are flawed. And believing otherwise, believing that there is such a thing as a flawless or "superior" type of human, is really detrimental to the vast majority of people. It's hard to see that because it's been something we've been doing forever but it's a psychological mess. It's an unrealistic idea of what a human being actually is, and it contributes massively to people NOT accepting each other's flaws. And surely you can't argue that as a society, currently, we are generally accepting of each other's flaws?

I didn't really get the Diana hysteria either, and I think the Royals are far from perfect, I do think for some they do bring a great joy to many people just like Hollywood A listers whether that be watching them on telly or following them on Twitter or getting up at silly o clock to get to Buck Hose to catch a glimpse so be it each to his own, they are part and parcel of British heritage and culture

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They are part and parcel of British heritage and culture

So was aggressive colonialism, theological conquest, slavery and indentured servitude... it doesn't mean they shouldn't have been abolished or should be brought back.

British Royalty will remain part and parcel of British heritage and culture whether it's active or not; just as it is in every other post-monarchy country. Just as Vikings are part of Scandinavian heritage and culture. Just as old-west cowboys and saloons are part of United States heritage and culture. Removing the active component doesn't change that in any way.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So was aggressive colonialism, theological conquest, slavery and indentured servitude... it doesn't mean they shouldn't have been abolished or should be brought back.

British Royalty will remain part and parcel of British heritage and culture whether it's active or not; just as it is in every other post-monarchy country. Just as Vikings are part of Scandinavian heritage and culture. Just as old-west cowboys and saloons are part of United States heritage and culture. Removing the active component doesn't change that in any way.

The Royal house has evolved, no one has been beheaded in years