[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Which is part of the problem tbh. She had not actually said or done anything. he was bringing up stuff from outside of the house, to try and get others to have a random go at her and turn against her..for seemingly no reason except to get people to attack her as he had randomly decided that her opinions were an issue (despite actually having a convo about her voting record and concluding that he disagreed with her but its her right to have those opinions). Was very odd behaviour

basically he was trying to shut her down and manipulate the housemates into turning against her...but for stuff she hadn't even said

...I still don’t see the shutting down thing, Vicky because there was nothing to shut down...that’s the thing isn’t it, like you say there was no communication happening between them to shut down...hmmm, what I felt I saw was..that it wasn’t ‘random’ as such with his behaviour that night, it was more a build up of things, maybe of disapprovals Ann had shown, with facial expression etc, calling his and Andrew’s playfight ‘obscene’ and such the like, there were a few things, I can’t recall them all...and maybe his emotions were quite on the surface because of Andrew being evicted and feeling the loss of his closest friend in the house...so yeAh, they had, had a previous conversation in the early days but in that kind of environment, it’s easy to see how people still can have little blips, I think that’s just a human quality
so I don’t find that bit odd as such at all...he had a blip, Amanda took him to task and told him what for and that was that, they were all brilliant and gracious the next day with what I felt were sincere apologies from him...and gracious acceptances from them...

...anyways I’ve quoted Joey’s post as well because I completely agree with him in that I wished he had expressed what he was feeling at that moment to Ann herself, which is where he was in the wrong completely...in balance of his character though with what he’s displayed in the house for the most part, I do feel personally that it was just all a bit of a blip that night, so don’t really feel disappointment with him beyond that...he had a bad day is what I think....

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Superb post.

I saw it near all that way too.

I only wish he had just raised what issues he wished with Ann herself.
That's where he went wrong.

I've said all along had he done so,Ann would have discussed it with him,I'd also dare bet she would have jumped at the chance to.

Love or hate her, agree with her or not,Ann has never backed off from stating and restating her opinions,likely ever.