[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

He’d probably win.
At this point i really don’t care.I wouldn’t vote.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-privatisation

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/...-and-socialism

I very much doubt it. He is a socialist through and through and socialism does not support home ownership. He has already made his first move by trying to steal investment homes from the wealthy, will stop council tenants from buying their properties - what next. He will be after stopping anyone from owning their own properties and everyone will have to rent. What a grim picture that would be.

It makes me laugh when people go on about getting Labour in so they don’t have to pay uni fees and can then afford to buy their own homes. What homes when the Labour Government is a socialist government who oppose home ownership. Most people aspire to own their own homes if they can. There will be no such right soon if Labour have their way. If they get in there will be no stopping them. People, especially the young, need to wake up to what a socialist government actually means.

What would even be the point in going to uni or working hard as there would be no real benefit from that. Socialism kills personal motivation.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Literally next to nobody in the country wanted a tory/dup coalition. It is odd we all settled on it pretty fast. I think the general public are just so sick of politics taking over the decade though.

Oh yeah the Torries have been the largest party for 7 years but nobody voted for them... hmmm

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-privatisation

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/...-and-socialism

I very much doubt it. He is a socialist through and through and socialism does not support home ownership. He has already made his first move by trying to steal investment homes from the wealthy, will stop council tenants from buying their properties - what next. He will be after stopping anyone from owning their own properties and everyone will have to rent. What a grim picture that would be.

It makes me laugh when people go on about getting Labour in so they don’t have to pay uni fees and can then afford to buy their own homes. What homes when the Labour Government is a socialist government who oppose home ownership. Most people aspire to own their own homes if they can. There will be no such right soon if Labour have their way. If they get in there will be no stopping them. People, especially the young, need to wake up to what a socialist government actually means.

What would even be the point in going to uni or working hard as there would be no real benefit from that. Socialism kills personal motivation.

A Corbyn McDonell government is a bleak prospect but so are the current government.They are gonna fk up Brexit and give us some half in half out bs.They just keep backing down to the EU and Labour want ‘A’ Customs Union.
I’ve lost interest in politics tbh.With this first past the post system we’re stuck with a 2 party state for generations unless a radically new centrist party comes along.
I’m just gonna sit back and watch the ****show unfold.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she won love

your pals could not pick a nipple in a barrel full of tits

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Oh yeah the Torries have been the largest party for 7 years but nobody voted for them... hmmm

He’s not saying that.He’s saying that nobody wanted a Tory DUP coalition.(Apart from possibly DUP supporters).Which is true.Tories wanted a majority and Labour obvs didn’t want it.
Yes May got most votes but calling that GE was a huge mistake and her awful campaign was her second mistake.She’s in a very weak position.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

A Corbyn McDonell government is a bleak prospect but so are the current government.They are gonna fk up Brexit and give us some half in half out bs.They just keep backing down to the EU and Labour want ‘A’ Customs Union.
I’ve lost interest in politics tbh.With this first past the post system we’re stuck with a 2 party state for generations unless a radically new centrist party comes along.
I’m just gonna sit back and watch the ****show unfold.

It is scarey - but as you say we have limited choices. To me Corbyn is No choice and would be even worse. He has proved on several occasions now he cannot be trusted and will move the goalposts, supposedly lifelong beliefs, if it means getting the top job. I simply would not trust him further than I could sling him.

Only time will tell but if he ever gets in, and I don’t believe he will as he is too big a risk, I have no doubt those singing to his tune now will get a very rude awakening and be among the first to regret their ill-informed decisions.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

He’s not saying that.He’s saying that nobody wanted a Tory DUP coalition.(Apart from possibly DUP supporters).Which is true.Tories wanted a majority and Labour obvs didn’t want it.
Yes May got most votes but calling that GE was a huge mistake and her awful campaign was her second mistake.She’s in a very weak position.

I'm actually beginning to admire May a bit. She has been in an almost impossible position what with Corbyn's opposition and some in her own Tory party giving her a hard time over the Brexit talks and the BBC criticising every move she makes and suppressing anything that could damage their puppet Corbyn.
That weakens her position in the EU. They must be rubbing their hands in glee at how they are therefore better placed to adopt a harder stance because the parties aren't at least showing some solidarity in getting the country the best possible deal they can get for the good of the country and what they voted for and letting her concentrate on getting on with it.

I think May has done pretty well considering and is getting stronger. She can't be considered that much of a disaster or Corbyn and his cronies would be soaring ahead in the polls. That they aren't speaks volumes - that he would be even worse.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Oh yeah the Torries have been the largest party for 7 years but nobody voted for them... hmmm

Tories didnt win. The tories AND the DUP won. And next to nobody wanted that coalition which was my point. I'm aware several millions voted for the Tories.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm actually beginning to admire May a bit. She has been in an almost impossible position what with Corbyn's opposition and some in her own Tory party giving her a hard time over the Brexit talks and the BBC criticising every move she makes and suppressing anything that could damage their puppet Corbyn.
That weakens her position in the EU. They must be rubbing their hands in glee at how they are therefore better placed to adopt a harder stance because the parties aren't at least showing some solidarity in getting the country the best possible deal they can get for the good of the country and what they voted for and letting her concentrate on getting on with it.

I think May has done pretty well considering and is getting stronger. She can't be considered that much of a disaster or Corbyn and his cronies would be soaring ahead in the polls. That they aren't speaks volumes - that he would be even worse.

I don’t know.I agree she was given a poisoned chalice with brexit and it would’nt have been easy for anyone.She did a great job
of appearing strong until she made the almost fatal mistake of calling a GE and leading a god awful campaign.Corbyn was at a particularly weak point at the time.God knows how she fk’d it up so badly.It’s all gone downhill from then.Many of her party i think dont have confidence in her but only back her as they’re terrified of a GE right now.She also has the problem of all the Tory remainers like that **** Soubry plus brexiteers like Boris and Gove who aren’t happy with the pandering to Juncker.Then there’s the chancellor who likes to contradict her from time to time.
May will be lucky to make it through the process i reckon.

[Oliver_W]

Tbh it would have been better all round if the snap election was held about a week after its announcement. May would have increased her majority without needing the DUP, and Labour would (possibly) get a new leader.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Why would you want a terrorist sympathiser in charge? do you like the country being blow up

I reported this but seeing as it's fit to remain I'll respond..

We HAVE terrorist sympathisers in power do your research on the DUP and educate yourself.

What a ridiculous question, offensive and accusatory NO! of course I don't like the country being blown up, do you like people dying in the streets that's a fair response and much more likely under the current govt.

I won't be posting in this thread again, I'm borderline on the whole forum to be fair due to the right wing trolling that has reached endemic proportions.

I feel due to the front pages of the FT we are being prepped for a Labour govt and I welcome that for the good of society, nothing least of all these rancid baiting responses will change that.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Why would you want a terrorist sympathiser in charge? do you like the country being blow up

That seems like a rational well thought out argument.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I reported this but seeing as it's fit to remain I'll respond..

We HAVE terrorist sympathisers in power do your research on the DUP and educate yourself.

What a ridiculous question, offensive and accusatory NO! of course I don't like the country being blown up, do you like people dying in the streets that's a fair response and much more likely under the current govt.

I won't be posting in this thread again, I'm borderline on the whole forum to be fair due to the right wing trolling that has reached endemic proportions.

I feel due to the front pages of the FT we are being prepped for a Labour govt and I welcome that for the good of society, nothing least of all these rancid baiting responses will change that.

Oh come on - the left have been trolling this forum for years and some don’t like a slight evening up of the numbers. Tough.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh come on - the left have been trolling this forum for years and some don’t like a slight evening up of the numbers. Tough.

Where?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Where?

Everywhere.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Everywhere.

How very specific.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How very specific.

Everyone knows it is a predominantly left wing site - but some like to try to undermine opposite views by referring to the posters as ‘trolling’. It is psychological warfare and intended to dismiss differing opinions. If trolling exists it clearly comes from both sides.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Everyone knows it is a predominantly left wing site - but some like to try to undermine opposite views by referring to the posters as ‘trolling’. It is psychological warfare and intended to dismiss differing opinions. If trolling exists it clearly comes from both sides.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh come on - the left have been trolling this forum for years and some don’t like a slight evening up of the numbers. Tough.

I see.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I see.

Not in my opinion.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not in my opinion.

That doesn't make much sense in this context but okay.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I reported this but seeing as it's fit to remain I'll respond..

We HAVE terrorist sympathisers in power do your research on the DUP and educate yourself.

What a ridiculous question, offensive and accusatory NO! of course I don't like the country being blown up, do you like people dying in the streets that's a fair response and much more likely under the current govt.

I won't be posting in this thread again, I'm borderline on the whole forum to be fair due to the right wing trolling that has reached endemic proportions.

I feel due to the front pages of the FT we are being prepped for a Labour govt and I welcome that for the good of society, nothing least of all these rancid baiting responses will change that.

Don't you go anywhere, Girl!
time is on our side
ignore incoherent rants and save your energy for worthwhile discussions which do happen from time to time

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Don't you go anywhere, Girl!
time is on our side
ignore incoherent rants and save your energy for worthwhile discussions which do happen from time to time

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Everyone knows it is a predominantly left wing site - but some like to try to undermine opposite views by referring to the posters as ‘trolling’. It is psychological warfare and intended to dismiss differing opinions. If trolling exists it clearly comes from both sides.

Is it? That's not the impression I got when I joined
I suppose you could do a statistical analysis of say, a month worth of SD threads to check that
Imo, the forum shows left-lean in polls but in threads, right wing is the loudest

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

you can laugh Brillo
left leaning people could very easily abandon this section of the forum and you'd be left talking to yourselves
each thread would die after a few posts
I don't think you'd like that

[AnnieK]

I've always thought of this forum as more to the left but there are big characters on both sides but it makes it interesting to read when it does not descend into the tit for tat silliness that has been happening more and more.

On topic....I personally think Teresa May inherited a sinking ship after Cameron deserted ys after Brexit. A change is needed in this country and fast to stabilise us, whether either main party is the solution, I'm not sure. I think Labour gov would do well, but under the current leadership I'm not sure