[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You have? In real life like?

I was with my dog Curly when he was put to sleep and it's peaceful so if it's anything like that it's good.

it is sad but it's better that they have a peaceful death than long suffering and lots of pain (which is even more sad)

[Beso]

Cant a patient refuse medication to die sooner?

So why its not allowed is beyond me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Cant a patient refuse medication to die sooner?

So why its not allowed is beyond me.

If something is terminal I reckon most of what they're taking is probably just for pain relief rather than prolonging a sickness

[Crimson Dynamo]

we do it for animals aside form humans so why not human animals too?

[Livia]

They let you die in hospital by withholding food and drink, so you die of hunger and dehydration. And what's more, the medical profession let people die all the time.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

They let you die in hospital by withholding food and drink, so you die of hunger and dehydration. And what's more, the medical profession let people die all the time.

Yeah, im sure the dr helped my dad out at the end.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yeah, im sure the dr helped my dad out at the end.

It's the right thing to do. I know their Hippocratic Oath doesn't permit them to kill actually people, but sometimes preserving life is the cruellest thing they could do. And their Oath would forbid them from performing abortions... but they still do.

[DemolitionRed]

Hospices are very tuned in to when a person has reached the final stages of life. One of the more umpleasant processes of dying is air hunger where a person gasps, sometimes frantically for air. Oxygen won't help if a person is going through the biological process of dying because organs are naturally shutting down. This is when they are normally given morphine. Its not to kill them, its to relax them and reduce air hunger. IMO, morphine during the final days is a dignified and relaxed way to die.

[AnnieK]

My mum once said to me that if she was ever that ill that she would never recover to help her end it. Thankfully when she did get very poorly, she didn't ask.

In some ways we were quite lucky (!?) with my mum. She was diagnosed with cancer and died within 4 weeks and I can say with some certainty that after her dianosis she was never in pain but she was very quickly not my mum either. Sitting by her bed at home firstly and then in a hospice was the darkest days of my life. She was asleep (unconscious?) most of the time. Her last day was awful with the gasping for breath but the hospice staff were amazing but I would have loved her not to have lost last days of suffering but to be honest, I don't think once she was diagnosed that they would have let her make the decision of assisted suicide as the cancer was in her brain so would have been deemed not mentally competent.

I am still in agreement though but with stringent rulings to prevent any exploitation or coercion

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My mum once said to me that if she was ever that ill that she would never recover to help her end it. Thankfully when she did get very poorly, she didn't ask.

In some ways we were quite lucky (!?) with my mum. She was diagnosed with cancer and died within 4 weeks and I can say with some certainty that after her dianosis she was never in pain but she was very quickly not my mum either. Sitting by her bed at home firstly and then in a hospice was the darkest days of my life. She was asleep (unconscious?) most of the time. Her last day was awful with the gasping for breath but the hospice staff were amazing but I would have loved her not to have lost last days of suffering but to be honest, I don't think once she was diagnosed that they would have let her make the decision of assisted suicide as the cancer was in her brain so would have been deemed not mentally competent.

I am still in agreement though but with stringent rulings to prevent any exploitation or coercion

[Crimson Dynamo]

When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep.


Not screaming and praying like all the passengers in his airplane







well someone had to

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

When I die, I want to die like my grandfather who died peacefully in his sleep.


Not screaming and praying like all the passengers in his airplane







well someone had to

[Kizzy]

'So does the thought of being an intolerable burden to their family. But campaigners scrupulously avoid talking about the wider social landscape, the rocketing numbers of those with dementia outliving their brains at vast personal and social cost.'

This is the portion I don't agree with the part where you are meant in your dotage to feel you are social slurry...
This I feel is in alignment with a eugenics ethic, you are no longer useful, you should therefore feel it is acceptable to cease to exist.

If you want this do it, it is quite rightly a huge social taboo and it's a cop out to suggest it's only the religious who are ethically opposed.

I would be interested to see the medical professionals opinions in support of euthanasia, not the BMA actual practicing doctors.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...imers-guernsey

[smudgie]

Dying with dignity.
Well, if vomiting and choking on your own $hit is dignified, not being able to lie down in bed to sleep and not being able to eat or even drink without it coming straight back up is dignified, you can keep it.
My sister died a terrible death last June, my sister-in-law has been in the hospice this past 15 days, both no hope and terminal, the choice should have been there for them both.
Perhaps neither of them would take that choice, but the option should be open to us all.