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Old 22-03-2018, 01:11 PM #1
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Default London Father Cleared over FGM Offences

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A father has been found not guilty of organising for his nine-year-old daughter to undergo female genital mutilation (FGM) to punish her.
The 50-year-old man, of south London, had been accused of twice arranging for someone to cut the girl with a razor as she lay on a mat in the hallway.
He was also acquitted of five other charges at the Old Bailey, including child cruelty and wounding with intent.
The man, originally from West Africa, had denied all of the accusations.
The case is only the second FGM prosecution brought to court in the UK, both of which led to acquittals.
This feels like such a miscarriage of justice to me on behalf of the child. Someone did this to her in her own home and the finger surely points at the parents first.

I don't think it matters if it was a punishment or cultural/religious. It needs to be stopped and prosecuted fiercely. Cutting a child's genitals is horrendous, no exception, no excuses.

Adding this link too because it is a national scandal. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37364079
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According to the NSPCC, they've had around 1,500 contacts about FGM since 2013. and over 500 have led to a referral to the police or to Children's Services and more than 70 protective orders issued. There are currently around 170,000 women in the UK who have suffered FGM or are at risk.

And they let this man walk. He had someone cut off his daughter's clitoris, on a mat on the floor, with no anaesthetic, using a razor blade.

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According to the NSPCC, they've had around 1,500 contacts about FGM since 2013. and over 500 have led to a referral to the police or to Children's Services and more than 70 protective orders issued. There are currently around 170,000 women in the UK who have suffered FGM or are at risk.

And they let this man walk. He had someone cut off his daughter's clitoris, on a mat on the floor, with no anaesthetic, using a razor blade.

2018 Great Britain.
They haven't given out much info on the case in that article but I wonder why he was acquitted? Was it that they didn't believe he was involved in it (if so that seems fair) but if it's because they didn't believe the reason he did was punishment(as Jaxie said, there should be no valid reason) then that's disgraceful
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They haven't given out much info on the case in that article but I wonder why he was acquitted? Was it that they didn't believe he was involved in it (if so that seems fair) but if it's because they didn't believe the reason he did was punishment(as Jaxie said, there should be no valid reason) then that's disgraceful
The prosecution told the jury the FGM did not happen for cultural or family reasons, but as a punishment.

However, Kate Bex QC, defending the father, suggested FGM was "predominantly perpetrated by female cutters on women" for reasons including "purification, honour and social acceptance".


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And that's why, in a nutshell, when I was thinking of training as a barrister, I knew I could never be a defence barrister.
Ugh gross, yeah I could never do that. Isn't FGM illegal in the UK though? so why does he get acquitted for it? because they're blaming the actual "cutters" rather than the parent who called them in to do it? That's crazy
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What is going on here?... I have been following the Poppy Worthington case and when you read the outcomes like that one, as well as this and the 'revelations' from certain boroughs you have to think where is the justice for children in this country?
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And a few days ago, a couple of people from the Rotherham gangs were cleared.

I guess we can't blame people for following their cultural practices!!!
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