[kirklancaster]

Kizzy;9951533] "This is a discussion forum there are no 'winners and losers'. Should I be accused of being anti British or any other slur I will be sure to raise that within the thread, or report. "

^This is actually a ''SERIOUS DEBATES forum by Official Title, and in any type of Debate, there is ALWAYS a 'Winner' be that by Formal Judging decision or 'Audience Perception Conviction' in a 'Community' such as this one."

ANYONE who engages in a Debate on this forum is seeking to achieve MORE than merely airing an OPINION or they would NOT keep returning to the thread to ARGUE against COUNTER OPINIONS.

No, they are seeking to CONVINCE that their OPINION, their VIEW, their PREMISE, is the CORRECT one.

Failing to convince becomes apparent in Debate/Discussions on TIBB when more members are DRAWN into the thread who argue AGAINST the opinion or PREMISE than who do FOR that Premise.

The above by the way is all too often seized upon by those who DO perceive themselves to be losing a debate and used to wrongly complain about 'Gangs' and 'Tag-Teaming' etc when it is simply the fact that there are MORE members who DISAGREE with a premise and the following arguments supporting that premise, than there are members agreeing with it.

Failing to convince and 'losing' an argument also becomes apparent when the opposing argument is weighted with corroborating FACTS which are irrefutable.

The phrase 'Losing An argument' HAS a counterpart.

"'You are not in any position to point out any vile remarks'... Be assured I am and I will, if made on this forum regardless what is said in the wider community."

^ I am completely baffled as to why you include the above in a response to me because I have NEVER uttered the words which you have reproduced in inverted commas???

Good for you though that you are so diligent and vigilant when it comes to policing the forum for 'vile' remarks.