[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair Brillo... £150/hour is a high earner. £1000/hour is a very high earner. 9000/hour is insane.

For actual entrepreneurs who have built up something then sure. Even sports stars / actors is something different; they're basically freelance individuals hiring themselves out and people will pay what they pay.

But for corporate workers in a company where street-level staff are on close to minimum wage... A CEO earning more in two HOURS than most of their staff do in an entire YEAR is a massive kick in the teeth. Not least because most of these positions are gained through nepotism (having friends in the right places) rather than pure hard work.

Again like I said earlier in the thread... Especially if that CEO then tries to "put his foot down" and tell the customer-facing staff how to do their jobs, when most likely, he hasn't worked in a shop for decades (or probably ever). Protecting your billion(s) dollar company image and your own insanely high salary by putting your minimum wage staff at risk is just unforgiveable.


I just don't get people acting like this declaration about toilets is a victory for "the little guy". It's an absolute disaster. I'm not stereotyping homeless people or even saying that homeless people specifically will cause problems... Most will politely use the facilities and cause no hassle at all and those people SHOULD be allowed to use them... But that's not what this is about; it's about removing staff discretion and saying that ANYONE can use the facilities AT ANY TIME. 99.9% of people who use them will be totally fine but removing the staffs ability to say "lol no get out" to the other 0.1% I absolutely guarantee is going to make their jobs harder and in some cases straight up dangerous.

People in support of it mean well, I get that, but they are unfortunately wide of the mark on this occasion.

I pretty much agree with most of that - but they are a coffee shop - they are not in the business of providing public toilet facilities.

After a while the novelty value of putting up with ‘smelly’ patrons coming and going to use the facilities in a place where people eat and drink will wear off - I don’t mean that in a derogatory way, but is is what it is - people who have been homeless for a while will smell. And is not just the harmless ones. There will be bigger problems than that. It will eventually have a negative effect on the business.

What I object to most though is the bullying PC culture that has created this whole scenario. Tbh I think PC bullying will end up having a negative effect in many ways as some people can become hostile to such tactics and will be driven too far the other way out of anger and frustration. Bullying is bullying and PC bullying of this nature is no more acceptable than any other kind and is not as productive as the PC bullies like to think.