[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But if the racist didn't do what he did, nothing would have happened. If you provoke a situation and turn violent, you can't act like a victim if it goes south.

The racist gets the lion's share of the blame because if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be talking about this because it wouldn't have happened.

Don't victim blame, if a woman goes out in a short skirt and takes a shortcut through a bad neighbourhood, it's still not her fault if she gets raped.

The blame for him getting punched goes to the man who punched him.

[Liam-]

That is... possibly the worst analogy or comparison I’ve seen on here. Wild.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That is... possibly the worst analogy or comparison I’ve seen on here. Wild.

Says someone who thinks using words is worse than using fists.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Says someone who thinks using words is worse than using fists.

You’ve just compared a volatile racist to a rape victim, either you actually don’t see the glaring difference or you’re just sensationalising to get a reaction, either way, it’s foul

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That is... possibly the worst analogy or comparison I’ve seen on here. Wild.

Insane

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You’ve just compared a volatile racist to a rape victim, either you actually don’t see the glaring difference or you’re just sensationalising to get a reaction, either way, it’s foul

I've compared a victim of assault to a victim of rape. One used provocative words, one wears "provocative" clothes.

[Liam-]

Yeah, you’re looking for a reaction, not a good look Oliver

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Don't victim blame, if a woman goes out in a short skirt and takes a shortcut through a bad neighbourhood, it's still not her fault if she gets raped.



The blame for him getting punched goes to the man who punched him.

Thats a really really horrific comparison

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Don't victim blame, if a woman goes out in a short skirt and takes a shortcut through a bad neighbourhood, it's still not her fault if she gets raped.

The blame for him getting punched goes to the man who punched him.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Ban

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Don't victim blame, if a woman goes out in a short skirt and takes a shortcut through a bad neighbourhood, it's still not her fault if she gets raped.

The blame for him getting punched goes to the man who punched him.

Did you just try to compare a racist man getting violent with someone else and getting punched for it... to a woman getting raped?

Do you think that racially abusing someone and swinging at them is akin to a woman inviting sexual assault if she wears a short skirt?

A woman going out an about is not provoking someone to attack her because of her outfit choice, it's not comparable to a man racially abusing someone and then trying to hit them. The man is not a victim here, but the woman in your comparison is. It's just quite an insane comparison to make. You're literally comparing a man starting a fight to a woman being raped and calling them both victims when the situations couldn't be more different. I'm actually kind of stunned, I've seen a lot of bad comparisons but that one might take the cake.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've compared a victim of assault to a victim of rape. One used provocative words, one wears "provocative" clothes.

Racially abusing someone is as provocative as a woman going about her day in a short skirt?

Have I hit my head and ended up in the 50's in a comatose fever dream?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well with thoughtful and nuanced discussion like this, who could argue? Good job chaps you did it, everything will be better now, and lessons have been learned all round. Personally I just hadn't looked at it that way before, but you've really opened my eyes.

And thanks to the white man to school black men on how to react to being called a monkey.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Don't victim blame, if a woman goes out in a short skirt and takes a shortcut through a bad neighbourhood, it's still not her fault if she gets raped.

The blame for him getting punched goes to the man who punched him.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Don't victim blame, if a woman goes out in a short skirt and takes a shortcut through a bad neighbourhood, it's still not her fault if she gets raped.

The blame for him getting punched goes to the man who punched him.

I’m sorry what?

I think we should just end the discussion here if this is how far you’ve come.

[Oliver_W]

Okay I take that comment back, it was too extreme of a comparative example, and stupid.

But it's still victim blaming to suggest the old man deserved or was asking for the violence he received.

[Marsh.]

It may be a bit strong to say he "deserved" it but, technically, he was asking for it. You don't get aggressive and start throwing your hands around if you're not 'asking' for a fight.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It may be a bit strong to say he "deserved" it but, technically, he was asking for it. You don't get aggressive and start throwing your hands around if you're not 'asking' for a fight.

Sure, I subscribe to the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" philosophy I agree he was technically asking for it, and bit off more than he could chew.

[Moniqua]

fook y'all

[Moniqua]

bunch of facists!

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

fook y'all

Originally Posted by Moniqua

bunch of facists!

Hard to argue with that.

[thesheriff443]

You can’t have mob justice.

If you truly want the world to be a better place every one should be treated the same for rewards and punishment.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You can’t have mob justice.

If you truly want the world to be a better place every one should be treated the same for rewards and punishment.

Logic, lol.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Okay I take that comment back, it was too extreme of a comparative example, and stupid.

But it's still victim blaming to suggest the old man deserved or was asking for the violence he received.

I mean that’s great but he did ask for by throwing the first punch. His stupid racist arse violently escalated it.

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Okay I take that comment back, it was too extreme of a comparative example, and stupid.

But it's still victim blaming to suggest the old man deserved or was asking for the violence he received.

Surely the victim is the person who is being racially abused in the first place. Without the old guy mouthing off there is no story. He tried to victimize someone for the colour of the skin, he himself only became a victim after the fact.