[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I find it fascinating but depressing, The same garbage as always

and the same patronising bollocks from you

have a listen to yourself

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and the same patronising bollocks from you

have a listen to yourself

Is my stance patronising? I dbnt mean to be but some of these comments are absurd.

[Liam-]

I wonder if the personal comments about me will be deleted as quick as the comments about the people doing the majority of the trolling

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I wonder if the personal comments about me will be deleted as quick as the comments about the people doing the majority of the trolling

You invited it by pretending to know what racism feels like

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I wonder if the personal comments about me will be deleted as quick as the comments about the people doing the majority of the trolling

Indeed. There seem to be some rule breaks that go unpunished.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Indeed. There seem to be some rule breaks that go unpunished.

Speaks volumes really doesn’t it, there’s a reason so many of the people in minorities have abandoned the forum, it’s become a toxic cesspool to be involved in

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Speaks volumes really doesn’t it, there’s a reason so many of the people in minorities have abandoned the forum, it’s become a toxic cesspool to be involved in

I cannot disagree

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I wonder if the personal comments about me will be deleted as quick as the comments about the people doing the majority of the trolling

We put up with your nonsense
You feel the need to jump on any minority boat carrying on like you actually care
You have got absolutely nothing in common with the people in question
You must feel it makes you a better member of society but it doesn’t
Your as rack as fcuk

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

We put up with your nonsense
You feel the need to jump on any minority boat carrying on like you actually care
You have got absolutely nothing in common with the people in question
You must feel it makes you a better member of society but it doesn’t
Your as rack as fcuk

Nah unnecessary.

Plenty of people have White Savior Syndrome. Doesn't make them bad or racist tbh

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nah unnecessary.

Plenty of people have White Savior Syndrome. Doesn't make them bad or racist tbh

I never said racist I said fake.
All the twats constantly complaining about the forum can leave like all the other snow flakes that have left, thinking they can dictate who can post on the forum

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I never said racist I said fake.
All the twats constantly complaining about the forum can leave like all the other snow flakes that have left, thinking they can dictate who can post on the forum

I think that this Forum is good for having different opinions, which Liam is providing tbf.

The last thing that this Forum needs is an echo chamber, we get that already from Twitter & Facebook.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nah unnecessary.

Plenty of people have White Savior Syndrome. Doesn't make them bad or racist tbh

Liam does this countless times, he speaks for black people as if he's black or something, as if he understands their historical struggle. Im sure that is just as insulting to black people as anything like the topic of thread is. A white man pretending he knows the black struggle.

I knew this thread would turn out like it has. At the end of the day, all this is getting 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000x more coverage than almost daily stabbings of children in London. It's good to see where peoples priorities lie!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Swan

Liam does this countless times, he speaks for black people as if he's black or something, as if he understands their historical struggle. Im sure that is just as insulting to black people as anything like the topic of thread is. A white man pretending he knows the black struggle.

I knew this thread would turn out like it has. At the end of the day, all this is getting 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000x more coverage than almost daily stabbings of children in London. It's good to see where peoples priorities lie!

Great post swan

[AnnieK]

We've spent weeks on here debating if its bullying when people were ganging up on Matt Hancock and that pack mentality was bullying. The same posters on here are talking directly about Liam, agreeing with each other and generally doing the exact same thing they were declaring as bullying. Its a bit rich really. Liam has a different perspective to some people on this forum....doesn't make him wrong, or right but he has the right to put his point across. He has not personally insulted anyone individually but has had lots thrown at him personally - wgich is against the rules. (Sorry Liam to compare you to Matt Hancock).

[Redway]

You okay, Liam?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Redway

You okay, Liam?

Of course, the comments don’t bother me, it’s the forum hypocrisy in the entire situation that’s winds me up

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Of course, the comments don’t bother me, it’s the forum hypocrisy in the entire situation that’s winds me up

Eurovision week does that to me.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Eurovision week does that to me.

You’ll have to go for a pint in Liverpool during Euro.-2023, parm. There’s no city quite like Liverpool when it comes to Eurovision celebrations and booze to go with it.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

We've spent weeks on here debating if its bullying when people were ganging up on Matt Hancock and that pack mentality was bullying. The same posters on here are talking directly about Liam, agreeing with each other and generally doing the exact same thing they were declaring as bullying. Its a bit rich really. Liam has a different perspective to some people on this forum....doesn't make him wrong, or right but he has the right to put his point across. He has not personally insulted anyone individually but has had lots thrown at him personally - wgich is against the rules. (Sorry Liam to compare you to Matt Hancock).

That's correct, but it works both ways. In this thread for example, was the old white woman racist, or just clumsy? Up for debate, right? Yet so many on here will scream "racist" if you don't agree with them that this case in particular is 100% racist no questions asked. Well, no, we should ask questions. People are too quick to judge to suit their own narrative, both "sides" are guilty of this!

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

That's correct, but it works both ways. In this thread for example, was the old white woman racist, or just clumsy? Up for debate, right? Yet so many on here will scream "racist" if you don't agree with them that this case in particular is 100% racist no questions asked. Well, no, we should ask questions. People are too quick to judge to suit their own narrative, both "sides" are guilty of this!

Like you said it goes both ways.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Redway

Like you said it goes both ways.

Exactly, so why do so many kick up a fuss when others see a different side to the story? Not just this one either.

If they don't agree they just dismiss you as some sort of phobe or racist. It's a terrible mentality. Listen to others, accept difference in an opinion. But it's people like those mentioned who just can't accept anything different than what they believe. As soon as you go against their opinion you are insulted and accused of being racist. It's such bollocks. Most people in this multi cultured country aren't racist at all. They just get on with it.

But it does beg the question, why does this crap, and it is crap, get so much attention when young black kids are stabbed to death daily in London?!

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Swan

Exactly, so why do so many kick up a fuss when others see a different side to the story? Not just this one either.

If they don't agree they just dismiss you as some sort of phobe or racist. It's a terrible mentality. Listen to others, accept difference in an opinion. But it's people like those mentioned who just can't accept anything different than what they believe. As soon as you go against their opinion you are insulted and accused of being racist. It's such bollocks. Most people in this multi cultured country aren't racist at all. They just get on with it.

But it does beg the question, why does this crap, and it is crap, get so much attention when young black kids are stabbed to death daily in London?!

As far as that goes (ignoring that last sentence, because stabbings down-south aren’t really associated with any ethnicity, just like U.S. shootings; there’s often some sort of provocation behind the evenings but sometimes it just happens to whatever unfortunate kid’s hanging around), you might have a point. A lot of blank people are quick to tar white people with a brush that makes them sound a lot more overall racist than they are, true, and little room for disagreement’s granted when someone just wants to play the race-card and paint all white people as raggedy, pale trash but six times out of ten there’s underlying trauma at work there so when it comes to things like this I just try and hear people out seriously and let them tell their story instead of invalidating or gaslighting them further. People who bang on about the supposed micro-aggressions around them when the white people are literally just trying to get on with it do kind of get on my nerves (not that I can’t understand how they feel) but on this thread whenever there’s been a one-sided response it’s been more in favour of the old lady and how it’s ‘not okay,’ even to the point of being ageist, to paint her as racist. But given what we’ve seen and heard from NGOZI (who said several times that she did more-than account for the generation the older woman was from) I’d say there’s less room for questioning whether or not she was victim to racism than to support and believe in her. She’s not exactly wanting in third-party verification either.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

That's correct, but it works both ways. In this thread for example, was the old white woman racist, or just clumsy? Up for debate, right? Yet so many on here will scream "racist" if you don't agree with them that this case in particular is 100% racist no questions asked. Well, no, we should ask questions. People are too quick to judge to suit their own narrative, both "sides" are guilty of this!

I'm not quite sure both ways is a fair representation, when it goes:

None of you know what it's like to feel racially abused

Versus

Leave you balding semen stain

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'm not quite sure both ways is a fair representation, when it goes:

None of you know what it's like to feel racially abused

Versus

Leave you balding semen stain

But you can agree it's open for debate? I don't think the old woman was intentionally racist, i don't think a real racist would be that clumsy, not in a public forum as it were. But there are people on here who think just because you don't think the white woman was racially abusing the black woman that you yourself are racist, it's crap.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Swan

But you can agree it's open for debate? I don't think the old woman was intentionally racist, i don't think a real racist would be that clumsy, not in a public forum as it were. But there are people on here who think just because you don't think the white woman was racially abusing the black woman that you yourself are racist, it's crap.

You don't need to be openly shouting slurs and looking to cause offense to be racist. It's a mentality and she let it slip out.