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09-10-2023, 10:07 AM | #226 | |||
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self-oscillating
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Israel took out 1000 infrastructure targets last night alone. While hamas still have the will to continue, their ability to do so has been surgically cut off. Now it's a case of neutralising the threats within Israel itself and then making sure that none of the other hostile entities that surround them take advantage.
Getting back the hostages is going to be priority number one shortly i would have thought |
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09-10-2023, 10:10 AM | #227 | |||
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Sadly Some Prisoners
being held in Gaza have died, because of Israeli Fighter Jet Bombs SkyNewsHD Live |
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09-10-2023, 10:11 AM | #228 | |||
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09-10-2023, 11:06 AM | #229 | |||
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[Israel orders 'complete siege' of Gaza, cutting off food and electricity, and prepares for massive ground offensive 'within 48 hours' in response to Jewish state's 'worst day in history' Israel continued to relentlessly pound the Gaza strip this morning with air strikes Israel Palestine war LIVE: Jewish state prepares massive ground offensive] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ish-state.html |
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09-10-2023, 11:16 AM | #230 | |||
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God Save The Rave
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All but guaranteeing the creation of a new generation of extremists. The wheel keeps on turning.
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09-10-2023, 11:21 AM | #231 | |||
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Not like us.
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It's not extreme to want to live in your own country and have rights. The fact that Israel has the capability to instantly disable all supplies of electricity and water to a neighbouring country should tell anyone exactly what kind of relationship exists between them. It's an occupation, not a war.
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09-10-2023, 11:24 AM | #232 | |||
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Yes, they are turning off power to flush out Hamas gunmen |
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09-10-2023, 11:29 AM | #233 | |||
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Not like us.
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They've been turning off power and water, including cementing the wells that provide water to Palestinians for a long, long time. Same with electricity and the absolute most basic of human rights.
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09-10-2023, 11:41 AM | #234 | |||
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God Save The Rave
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As for whether it's a war or occupation, I'd actually go as far as to say it's basically historically unique (not this conflict; the entire history of modern Israel). It was a terrible idea at the time, it was carried out as a kneejerk solution after WW2, and it remains a terrible idea to this day. I can't think of any example of anything even vaguely similar politically, currently or throughout history. |
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09-10-2023, 11:46 AM | #235 | |||
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Not in a State of War Hamas attacked them on a Holiday they were not prepared |
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09-10-2023, 12:00 PM | #236 | |||
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God Save The Rave
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09-10-2023, 12:00 PM | #237 | |||
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Here's the issue; elements of Hamas are undoubtedly motivated by extremism, and yet they're the only people providing charity and welfare to these people. painting them completely as a bunch of terrorists makes things neat and tidy to ignore the absolute and real terrorist actors, which is the Israeli government. Ukraine are freedom fighters, yet Palestinians are terrorist is pure western make believe. A powerless people only has "terror" available as a come back. They have nothing else. The withdrawal of the basic things needed to sustain life by an occupier, is pure terrorism. The fact it's an occupation is not really up for debate. I agree with some of what you say regarding the drawing of maps by Western powers ultimately coming back to haunt us, but we do have parallels from fairly recent history, such as the intentional starving of the Irish by the British government during the famine, and more specifically to scale, with the apartheid regime of south Africa.
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09-10-2023, 12:08 PM | #238 | |||
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God Save The Rave
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09-10-2023, 12:12 PM | #239 | |||
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09-10-2023, 12:13 PM | #240 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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When Hamas crossed the border what did they think would happen they have put 'their own people' in the line of fire now, its not going to solve anything, they are just acting like barbarians because they can
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09-10-2023, 12:16 PM | #241 | |||
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The voice of reason
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09-10-2023, 12:17 PM | #242 | |||
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Yes sadly true, Saturday was a Holy Holiday Hamas picked that day to murder more Israeli's |
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09-10-2023, 12:18 PM | #243 | |||
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שטח זה להשכרה
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They put their own people in danger every time they fire a rocket into Israel from a hospital or a school.
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09-10-2023, 12:25 PM | #244 | ||
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Remembering Kerry
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09-10-2023, 12:27 PM | #245 | |||
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I Cant Breathe
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At least 3 Brits are among those dead with 7 more missing and presumed dead
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09-10-2023, 12:30 PM | #246 | |||
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I Cant Breathe
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Hezbollah has said if The USA get involved then they will attack them, both Hezbollah and Hamas are known to have huge sleeper cells in the country.
Hopefully the UK stay way clear, its not our war and we can't afford to go into this
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09-10-2023, 12:34 PM | #247 | |||
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שטח זה להשכרה
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How many people of unknown origin have we let into this country in the last couple of years? If I was a terrorist leader I'd make sure as many of my people were shipped in as possible.
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09-10-2023, 12:34 PM | #248 | |||
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Zumi Zimi Zami
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more than 40 years now, and tbf Israel also just goes along with that, not trying to come with some form of a compromise to make this war stop but no, i'm also not defending Hamas either, obviously, them continuing to attack Israel is indeed putting their own innocents in danger Liv, honestly Israel kinda also has had its share of being called problematic, getting banned out of AFC, hence why they became a member of the UEFA, after they had troubled relationships with Jordan, Syria, Iran, Saudi, yes i happen to know this (thx to wikipedia)
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09-10-2023, 12:35 PM | #249 | |||
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The Israeli army have been murdering and torturing children for decades with the tacit approval of our government, and by extension, us citizens, and It's always been crickets. Until folks really get to grips with the conditions and what is actually going on there, I find it really difficult to take the ivory tower pontificating on what is or is not terror or appropriate to be little more than obfuscation.We pretend one form of decades-long attacks like the ones seen 2 days ago just isn't important, but we get (rightly) outraged, when we see civilians massacred the other way round. My position is consistent; it's the folks who play these pretend games about Israel that provide the terror justifications, not me seeing the whole situation for what it is. I'm not patriotic in any way because it's all an accident of birth as far as I'm concerned, but I'm self aware enough to Know that if the Romans turned up tomorrow and turfed me out of my house, put me in an open air prison, murdered generations of my family, stripped away any rights I had to participate in a society, I'd be fully radicalised to undertake whatever it took to hit back against any and all of my oppressors, and I think most people would. Can already see the 2001 bloodlust returning in this thread.
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09-10-2023, 12:43 PM | #250 | |||
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REVIVAL
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Hamburg Airport was put on lockdown for an hour there. Apparently an email threat from Iran. Looks to be back open now.
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