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ThomasC · 18-10-2024, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kate!

Facepalm!!

We are not saying he was all sweet and innocent by a long chalk. Not at all? He was extremely flawed, damaged. As Thomas said, its empathetic to feel sorrow at his death. For him and his family etc alike.

I wouldn't even bother Kate.

They're entitled to their opinion.

We're going around in circles
Thankfully, it's a minority opinion.

It's the same demographic who contribute to the dark side of social media. Free to say what they like behind a computer with very little understanding of human psychology. Like I said previous, a lack of emotional intelligence

rusticgal · 18-10-2024, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

The bloke made his ex get an abortion then harassed her to the point she has to seek legal solutions. Then cheated on his girlfriend with girls he paid for sex. Was pretty much a deadbeat dad to the kid he had with Cheryl.

And everyone is supposed to treat him like a sweet innocent man now because he got himself killed? Go out

Do you know him personally???...or are you making these judgements on what you have read?

Glenn. · 18-10-2024, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

Do you know him personally???...or are you making these judgements on what you have read?

From what I’ve seen and heard from him. His solo music was dire and his record company agreed

rusticgal · 18-10-2024, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

From what I’ve seen and heard from him.

So you don't know him personally....you are making that judgement on what you have 'seen' and 'heard'....

I was a little confused because you don't like people making judgements on people based on what they have 'seen' and 'heard'....which makes your comments hypocritical to say the least....what makes it worse is a young life has been lost..he didn't hurt anyone other than himself and the loved ones he has left behind....to see comments slagging him and his music off at this particular time is really quite inappropriate.

Glenn. · 18-10-2024, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal

So you don't know him personally....you are making that judgement on what you have 'seen' and 'heard'....

I was a little confused because you don't like people making judgements on people based on what they have 'seen' and 'heard'....which makes your comments hypocritical to say the least....what makes it worse is a young life has been lost..he didn't hurt anyone other than himself and the loved ones he has left behind....to see comments slagging him and his music off at this particular time is really quite inappropriate.

From what I’ve seen and heard from him. If the comparison you’re clutching at is my view on Harry and Meghans Haters then it’s weak as ****. The H&M haters literally make up weird scenarios, and conspiracy theories about them. Completely different.

Crimson Dynamo · 18-10-2024, 11:22 AM

170,790 people die every day

365 days per year

Zizu · 18-10-2024, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

170,790 people die every day

365 days per year

Now that is a crazy coincidence !!

lol

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Kate! · 18-10-2024, 11:27 AM

Pfffft. Utter Garbage. He was a great singer. Millions would disagree with you. Not that you're not entitled to your opinion of course.

Tom and amy fan · 18-10-2024, 01:20 PM

I keep thinking about how Cheryl has to explain to a 7 year old where his dad is

Zizu · 18-10-2024, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom and amy fan

I keep thinking about how Cheryl has to explain to a 7 year old where his dad is

Were they that close though or were they estranged ?

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Glenn. · 18-10-2024, 01:33 PM

He wasn’t a part of his life much so thankfully won’t be that much of a blow for him. Won’t be so hard on him until he’s grown up a bit.

arista · 18-10-2024, 01:33 PM

TMZ

GoldGlitter · 19-10-2024, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

TMZ

If it was higher his head could have popped off by hitting that metal frame.

arista · 19-10-2024, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldGlitter

If it was higher his head could have popped off by hitting that metal frame.

Yes
that would have been worse

Liam- · 18-10-2024, 03:35 PM

Some of the comments in here and on social media in general are actually quite shocking, I know the world likes to pick targets and go after them until they’re broke , but you’d think it would stop after they’ve died, especially in such tragic ways

arista · 18-10-2024, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

Some of the comments in here and on social media in general are actually quite shocking, I know the world likes to pick targets and go after them until they’re broke , but you’d think it would stop after they’ve died, especially in such tragic ways

Sure,
I think it is wrong to blame Simon Cowell
though

user104658 · 18-10-2024, 04:02 PM

I think what bugs me slightly is the idea that empathy is reserved for the "pure of spirit". That's not really empathy at all, is it. I can appreciate that he was a troubled chap who was leaving a lot of pain and destruction in his wake; but that in itself is sad, when you consider the bleak & toxic system that forged him, even without the way it's ended.

ThomasC · 18-10-2024, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I think what bugs me slightly is the idea that empathy is reserved for the "pure of spirit". That's not really empathy at all, is it. I can appreciate that he was a troubled chap who was leaving a lot of pain and destruction in his wake; but that in itself is sad, when you consider the bleak & toxic system that forged him, even without the way it's ended.

Spot on