[JerseyWins]

Wait wtf... James/Jackie/Meg are very seriously talking about keeping Vanessa.

[JerseyWins]

Well I was just gonna shut off the feeds and then I heard that. Not sure how this will end but I'll find out what's going on tomorrow. This is gonna be ridiculous if Vanessa does stay. James/Jackie/Meg actually seem extremely behind this all of a sudden.

They're kinda screwing their own long term games if they do this. But I'm mostly concerned for Becky & John in the double eviction this week.

[Calderyon]

Wth. Now Vanessa is staying and Shelli is going?

What happened? DR?

[Calderyon]

If they do this, it would be a very stupid move. They are basically leaving an alliance intact and pissing off Becky. (Who will probably be gone in the DE though, but still)

Does this confirm that James has been selected as the America´s player? He is the one who is pushing this hard.

[Calderyon]

James, Meg and Jackie seem to be locked on keeping Vanessa and getting rid of Shelli. And in the process pissing of John and Becky.

Hoping Vanessa wins HoH on Thursday and puts two of them up, just to show them how wrong they were on keeping her.

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh my god there is no America's Player stop

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

oh my god there is no America's Player stop

Good to hear.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Its not a bad move really for the Goblins because Shelli is after them, only downfall is they are keeping Vanessa in with her lap dogs the idiot twins and austwat. Hopefully they will discuss with Becky and she can switch them back.

All they need to do is win HOH and get Shelli out themselves. All they are doing is pushing Steve back to Austwins and Vanessa and John to that side. If Becky goes in double then they are totally ****ed.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Its not a bad move really for the Goblins because Shelli is after them, only downfall is they are keeping Vanessa in with her lap dogs the idiot twins and austwat. Hopefully they will discuss with Becky and she can switch them back.

All they need to do is win HOH and get Shelli out themselves. All they are doing is pushing Steve back to Austwins and Vanessa and John to that side. If Becky goes in double then they are totally ****ed.

Exactly that's why it is a bad move for those 3. It's only a good move for them for the double eviction, and even that's a maybe. In the long run it's a horrible move for them.

I can't believe they're not only considering this but seem to have almost already decided it last night.

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa's best bet is to stay in that bedroom all week. She won't annoy them that way.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Vanessa's best bet is to stay in that bedroom all week. She won't annoy them that way.

[Mystic Mock]

It's a stupid move for their games if Vanessa stays, however as a viewer it's better TV if Vanessa stays than if lone ranger Shelli stays.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Meg and James talked earlier about what a floater Becky is and now Vanessa completely threw under the bus to James about the Generals and how she thinks he's sexist and this and that.

This is entirely because of James. He was wanting to flip before any of this stuff, was able to convince Jackie and Meg. Austin and the twins were already set to let Vanessa get evicted until James came to Austin about the possibility of keeping Vanessa. I really hope that the episodes don't give Vanessa credit because it had NOTHING to do with her.

And even then, this isn't even about keeping Vanessa but getting rid of Shelli instead, which I don't think is necessarily a terrible move for James himself since he's well aware that Shelli is still gunning for him. Shelli's also a prime candidate to float her way through now so I wouldn't be terribly upset to see her go. I'd still love to see Vanessa go because this would've been the perfect end to her arc, but oh well. Shelli's general sense of entitlement screwed her over at the end of the day. She's been nominated twice now but never actually thought that she was going to get evicted. She never considered the possibility of everyone keeping Clay over her, and she certainly never considered the possibility of everyone keeping Vanessa. #shirtgate also didn't help and just gave James more of a concrete reason to go after her.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa has only told ONE LIE so far in this game, and it was only to protect Becky, the person who broke her word to her!!! I'm seriously not sure if I can handle more Vanessa after this week.

Anyway, Steve also apparently told Vanessa that he can't keep her because he/Shelli/John are on the outside of ~the eight~ so he can't afford to get rid of Shelli. So yeah, Steve's a ****ing idiot and Vanessa's dragging him and Becky to James/Austin. Becky or Steve is for sure going Thursday at this point.

[Mystic Mock]

What's Steve playing at?

[Macie Lightfoot]

I *REALLY* hope the show doesn't try to spin this as the best move since Dan's Funeral (which is also extremely overrated and mainly a ploy for the cameras like everything Dan does (Nomination Roulette still makes no sense) but that's for another day ) because Vanessa was seriously in her coffin ready to be put underground. She just got lucky.

[Mystic Mock]

Luck or Vanessa managed to make it look indirect by keeping away from James and the group so that Shelli would be the only one aggravating them all week so they'd be more inclined to vote Shelli out.

[JTM45]

Totally agree about the Dan's Funeral BS Macie!!!
I couldn't believe that anyone was taken in by it. It was the most blatant piece of production managed favorite saving crap i've ever witnessed on any BB.

[reece(:]

Hopefully things will change by thursday.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Luck or Vanessa managed to make it look indirect by keeping away from James and the group so that Shelli would be the only one aggravating them all week so they'd be more inclined to vote Shelli out.

Shelli's general sense of entitlement did it to herself tbh. She made the assumption that she was staying over Clay and now over Vanessa and just got really content and didn't do anything to help herself and made it clear that she felt safe. It also doesn't help that she got territorial and stole back Clay's sweatshirt that James was wearing. James hated her already but that type of pettiness just added more fuel to it all.

Originally Posted by JTM45

Totally agree about the Dan's Funeral BS Macie!!!
I couldn't believe that anyone was taken in by it. It was the most blatant piece of production managed favorite saving crap i've ever witnessed on any BB.

Like, Jenn would've flipped anyway if Dan just asked her like a normal person? However, Dan is not a normal person, so he had to put on his theatrics and hold a big house meeting to humiliate Danielle, and all that did was turn Jenn off to the point where she voted Ian (who she also hated because of some insensitive comment he made about 9/11) to win. But he was robbed of a bitter jury!!!!!

In other news, Vanessa claimed earlier that Steve made two fatal moves in this game, and the first was going against her!

[JerseyWins]

Omg I can't believe Vanessa is actually staying... and she's acting as annoying as ever.

[JTM45]

So how's Shelli reacting to the news that she's going home or haven't they told her ?
It would be nice to see someone being evicted who wasn't fully aware in advance for a change!

What's the bets that at some point on Friday there will be people holding their heads in their hands and repeatedly muttering "Whhhhyyyy.......oh wwwhhhhyyyyy did we decide to let Vanessa stay ??''

[Mystic Mock]

Do people really want Shelli to stay? As a viewer Vanessa brings a lot more to the series.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Do people really want Shelli to stay? As a viewer Vanessa brings a lot more to the series.

I can't stand Shelli but i can't stand Vanessa even more and would rather she went first!
That miserable squidward expression and her constant bull**** is unbearable for me!

[Mystic Mock]

Or Shelli does is cry though, there's no car crash entertainment to it either imo.

Vanessa is a trainwreck, and tbh I know that people like the ADC group on here but it's their own fault if they betray Becky's only move in the game as Becky goes, John joins the Sixth Sense, and evicts the remaining ADC group members.