[Z]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Look at White applauding whitesplaining. It's like all the condescending people listening to a black person that's experienced racism and then preceding to say but that's not racism this is what racism is and then "explains"

I'm pretty offended and annoyed by this comment when my whole post was about how Hollywood is really stale and there's a lack of roles for everyone in general because all Hollywood cares about is investing hundreds of millions in superhero movies and other franchises instead of actually writing original screenplays and writing diverse stories and characters... I find your comment moronic, frankly. I'm not trying to justify white people being given awards.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Z

I'm pretty offended and annoyed by this comment when my whole post was about how Hollywood is really stale and there's a lack of roles for everyone in general because all Hollywood cares about is investing hundreds of millions in superhero movies and other franchises instead of actually writing original screenplays and writing diverse stories and characters... I find your comment moronic, frankly. I'm not trying to justify white people being given awards.

Well I find your post moronic too as it's typical when there's an issue black people bring into attention, people make it about everyone. It can't just focus on the point blacks are trying to make. Another example is I don't know who, maybe Reese Witherspoon, is now talking about lack of roles for women in hollywood and etc. Fair enough, it needs to be discussed, but when gays bring up their issues people give them respect enough to let it be about the gays and how they experience things from their point of view and they give them support. I don't see millions of people jumping on it trying to diminish what they are trying to bring to the forefront. This is just another example of black lives matter...nah ALL lives matter.

[Z]

I also think that there are minorities who actually never get a chance to feature in Hollywood films unlike African-Americans which might be a bit of a stupid thing to point out but I do think is worth considering - take the film Aloha, it was universally panned for whitewashing its cast and rightly so, but I couldn't name you a single actor other than maybe Dwayne Johnson who's a famous Pacific Islander actor. Lucy Liu is one of a very few East Asian faces in Hollywood. Are there even any Indian subcontinent actors? Arab actors?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Z

I also think that there are minorities who actually never get a chance to feature in Hollywood films unlike African-Americans which might be a bit of a stupid thing to point out but I do think is worth considering - take the film Aloha, it was universally panned for whitewashing its cast and rightly so, but I couldn't name you a single actor other than maybe Dwayne Johnson who's a famous Pacific Islander actor. Lucy Liu is one of a very few East Asian faces in Hollywood. Are there even any Indian subcontinent actors? Arab actors?

Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

[Z]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

Fair point, but then again, that was eight years ago and his career hasn't taken off since then. I'm talking established names - there are none that I can think of right now?

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Dev Patel played the lead role in the 2008 best film winner Slumdog millionaire

See, when you have to go back 8 years to find an example.. it usually indicates a minority is under-represented. Also it was a movie set in India.. so it makes sense that they would have an Indian actor. Why do they have to do that only for a role that involves poverty?

Why not just have more southasian main characters? Or even just friends of main characters in all movies?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

See, when you have to go back 8 years to find an example.. it usually indicates a minority is under-represented. Also it was a movie set in India.. so it makes sense that they would have an Indian actor. Why do they have to do that only for a role that involves poverty?

Why not just have more southasian main characters? Or even just friends of main characters in all movies?

I was just giving an answer to the last part of Zs post.

But yeah let's deny it if it's not what you want to hear, I'm fine with that.

[Livia]

Anyone see Ice Cube on the Graham Norton Show? He had an interesting point to make. He said you get lots of accolades in the movie business and didn't seem unduly worried that Straight Outta Compton was only nominated for Best Screenplay. He also said:

"How could you be mad because one other academy or guild or whatever didn't say we're No. 1 … It's crying about not having enough icing on your cake."



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...er-used-858446

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anyone see Ice Cube on the Graham Norton Show? He had an interesting point to make. He said you get lots of accolades in the movie business and didn't seem unduly worried that Straight Outta Compton was only nominated for Best Screenplay. He also said:

"How could you be mad because one other academy or guild or whatever didn't say we're No. 1 … It's crying about not having enough icing on your cake."



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...er-used-858446

Youtube video

For Livia. Got to point out that Cube only got applause after Hugh Laurie agreed with him.

[Tom4784]

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is promising to double its "women and diverse members" in the wake of the Oscars diversity row.

Academy board members unanimously voted to take "historic" action after Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith called for a boycott of the 2016 Oscars because no actors or actresses of colour earned nominations.

In an effort to double its diversity among membership, the Academy will launch a campaign to recruit members from under-represented portions of the filmmaking community.

Three new members of the Academy board of governors will be recruited to increase diverse voices on the council as well.

Also, the voting status of members will now be up for ten year renewals – with three successful renewals guaranteeing lifetime voting rights.

Any member who has been nominated for an Oscar has guaranteed lifetime voting rights.

Meanwhile, members who do not meet the criteria of having their voting rights renewed will be moved to emeritus status where they will "enjoy all the privileges of membership except voting", according to the unanimous Academy decision.

All of these changes will go into effect by 2020 – and will have no impact on this year's Academy Awards ceremony.

Academy President Cheryl Boone Isaacs said today: "The Academy is going to lead and not wait for the industry to catch up.

"These new measures regarding governance and voting will have an immediate impact and begin the process of significantly changing our membership composition."

Today's decision comes as Spotlight​'s Mark Ruffalo, nominated for Best Supporting Actor, and The Big Short​'s Adam Kay, nominated for Best Director, as well as previous Oscar winners George Clooney and Lupita Nyong'o have called for greater diversity among Academy voters.​

On the opposite side of the spectrum, Academy Award nominee Charlotte Rampling criticised the Smiths' planned boycott as 'racist against white people'.

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/osc...mbers-by-2020/

I think it's an excellent move, When I heard they were going to make changes I was dreading the thought of them adding a quota which would be worse than snubbing actors of colour altogether since it would just be tokenism. Taking steps to diversify the voters themselves is a good move which could bring a big change to Hollywood itself.

[Kizzy]

[GiRTh]

Charlotte Rampling now claims her comments were misinterpreted.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016...misinterpreted

One pf the quickest back tracks ever.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Charlotte Rampling now claims her comments were misinterpreted.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016...misinterpreted

One pf the quickest back tracks ever.

Silly bitch.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Silly bitch.

Yesterday she had plenty to say for herself but apparently today those comments were misinterpreted. Not sure how her comments could have been misinterpreted, yesterday she seemed quite emphatic.

[Livia]

Considering some of the stuff Spike Lee's said about white people, Rampling's comment fades into insignificance.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Considering some of the stuff Spike Lee's said about white people, Rampling's comment fades into insignificance.

I think we all have views on gentrification.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/26/us...entrification/

[kirklancaster]

Can someone please tell me just WHAT this thread is about, if it is NOT about the fact that black actors have NOT been nominated for an Oscar for two years running? Please enlighten me.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Can someone please tell me just WHAT this thread is about, if it is NOT about the fact that black actors have NOT been nominated for an Oscar for two years running? Please enlighten me.

Yes Spike Lee started it off
now a Gang off Actors want to back him.
to Not go to the Oscars
Lack of Black Winners Moan

I say Blacklist* the feckers

* Thats a Business Term Only.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Spike Lee started it off
now a Gang off Actors want to back him.
to Not go to the Oscars
Lack of Black Winners Moan

I say Blacklist* the feckers

* Thats a Business Term Only.

When people feel strongly about an issue, they boycott. End of. In case of big white men they raid a building with big guns and they get sympathy. When it comes to blacks and what they feel strongly about-oh they're exaggerating, ALL LIVES MATTER. Sigh

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think we all have views on gentrification.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/26/us...entrification/

Yes Spike does not Like our Builders
who buy out local zones to build New High End flats.


Thats OK
he should make a Film on it.

Regeneration
is needed in many Zones


Life In The City

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Spike does not Like our Builders
who buy out local zones to build New High End flats.


Thats OK
he should make a Film on it.

Regeneration
is needed in many Zones


Life In The City

He might win an oscar....Oh, wait :/

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

Considering some of the stuff Spike Lee's said about white people, Rampling's comment fades into insignificance.

Spike Lee is a gifted film maker but he has a massive chip on those paranoid shoulders and his frequent bleating does no good to the black cause. Sorry - Just my opinion.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Spike Lee is a gifted film maker but he has a massive chip on those paranoid shoulders and his frequent bleating does no good to the black cause. Sorry - Just my opinion.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/18/en...tt-smith-feat/


Yes he needs to make a Film about This Topic
and add Guns

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Considering some of the stuff Spike Lee's said about white people, Rampling's comment fades into insignificance.

Livia be on the reverse racism ish.

[Marsh.]

I do think it was a case of her misunderstanding the situation. Her original interview implied she hadn't read/heard much about the boycott prior to the interviewer bringing it up and got the wires crossed about what it was about.