[Tom4784]

But she said negative things about Meghan so it must be true!!!!!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are you sure you know your own mind though?

Why not let me tell you what you are really thinking

'Unless it's an article slating Meghan Markle, then i'll gladly be told what to think.'

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yes you've posted many times what notorious blabbermouth Lizzie Cundy had to say to the press for a pay cheque and it never sounds anymore reliable no matter how you word it.

The truth hurts. Denial is natural.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

The truth hurts. Denial is natural.

The truth of the matter is that you're taking statements and speculation without a shred of proof as being the irreputable truth while making out that people who are reasonably questioning and doubting such things as being in denial. This is projection and nothing more

It's clear as day that you think that anything that paints Meghan in a bad light is without a doubt factual, yet anything that paints her otherwise is simply something to be ignored.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Unless it's an article slating Meghan Markle, then i'll gladly be told what to think.'

Nope, I didn't pay any heed to the candles in the abbey thing, or believe she threw hot tea around someone or the bruises Harry was seen with were maybe caused by Meghan bashing him...and lots more silly stuff. Discernment is important Dezzy.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Unless it's an article slating Meghan Markle, then i'll gladly be told what to think.'

Not read any articles, have you watched the SA documentary?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The truth of the matter is that you're taking statements and speculation without a shred of proof as being the irreputable truth while making out that people who are reasonably questioning and doubting such things as being in denial. This is projection and nothing more

It's clear as day that you think that anything that paints Meghan in a bad light is without a doubt factual, yet anything that paints her otherwise is simply something to be ignored.

I said it to 'one' person, about a particular subject, which suddenly becomes 'everyone'. Your posts are full of the most dreadful exaggeration and mind - reading attempts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is her unbelievable letter to her own father that was published in full from the ruling

astonishing

“Daddy,

It is with a heavy heart that I write this, not understanding why you have chosen to take this path, turning a blind eye to the pain you’re causing. The last time we spoke was seven days before our wedding when Harry and I called you. This was followed by a turbulent and confusing week where we called you multiple times a day to try to understand what was happening.

From my phone alone, I called you over 20 times and you ignored my calls, opting instead to solely speak to tabloids — leaving me in the days before our wedding worried, confused, shocked, and absolutely blindsided.

Post wedding you then made a choice to begin an onslaught of media interviews, which are still ongoing. Your actions have broken my heart into a million pieces — not simply because you have manufactured such unnecessary and unwarranted pain, but by making the choice to not tell the truth as you are puppeteered in this. Something I will never understand.

You've told the press that you called me to say you weren't coming to the wedding — that didn't happen because you never called. You've said I’ve never helped you financially and you’ve never asked me for help which is also untrue; you sent me an email last October that said, "if I've depended too much on you for financial help then I'm sorry but please if you could help me more, not as a bargaining chip for my loyalty. You already have that whether you realize it or not."

And while I still refuse to read any press, it was shared with me what you said about ... [Here, the claimant complained that her father had been unjust in what he wrote about a relative, and the claimant’s behaviour towards that relative. She provided a detailed rebuttal]. I have only ever loved, protected, and defended you, offering whatever financial support I could, worrying about your health be it your ... [Here, the claimant referred to a number of health problems encountered by her father] ..., and always asking how I could help.

So the week of the wedding to hear about you having a heart attack through a tabloid was horrifying. I called and texted you and desperately tried to find out about the medical treatment you would need and where you would be.

I begged you to accept help — we sent someone to your home, tried to have them drive you to the hospital, to get the best care and protection for you, and instead of speaking to me to accept this or any help, you stopped answering your phone and chose to only speak to tabloids. I will never understand why especially with you knowing I have always looked out for your health ... [Here, the claimant wrote about the nature and content of conversations with her father over the past 10 years] ... in the last two years your obsession with tabloid media only exacerbated my worry for you, which is why I pleaded with you to stop reading the tabloids.

On a daily basis you fixated and clicked on the lies they were writing about me, especially those manufactured by your other daughter, who I barely know ... [The claimant wrote about her upbringing, her half-sister and their relationship]... Though you feel you did your best to stop her while you watched me silently suffer at the hand of her vicious lies, I crumbled inside. ... [The claimant described her feelings about her father’s health] ... I ... urged you day after day to stop reading the tabloids.

But you couldn't — and your fascination grew into paranoia (and then rage) of how you were being portrayed. You know how much anguish tabloid press has caused — lies simply for click bait. So to suffer through this media circus created by you is all the more devastating.

You continue to be manipulated by the press, who are likely promising you the world to keep churning out these fictitious stories, yet still ridiculing you. The lies you have been paid to share about me, about our help for you, ... [Reference was made to support the claimant says her father received] ... is staggering and confusing. [... Reference was made to the contents of correspondence sent by Mr Markle ...]

We all rallied around to support and protect you from day one and this you know. So to hear about the attacks you’ve made at Harry in press, who was nothing but patient, kind, and understanding with you is perhaps the most painful of all. I will truly never understand it.

For some reason you choose to continue fabricating these stories, manufacturing this fictitious narrative, and entrenching yourself deeper into this web you’ve spun. The only thing that helps me sleep at night is the faith and knowing that a lie can’t live forever.

My hope is that you can take a moment to reflect on this. To remember our conversation seven days before the wedding when we asked you if the claims of you working with the paparazzi and press were true and told you if we tried to protect you from the story running (something we've never attempted to do for anyone, ourselves included) that we wouldn't be able to use that strength to protect our own children one day. Even knowing that, you said it wasn't true.

I believed you, trusted you, and told you I loved vou. The next morning the CCTV footage came out. You haven't reached out to me since the week of our wedding, and while you claim you have no way of contacting me, my number has remained the same. This you know. No texts, no missed calls, no outreach from you, just more global interviews you’re being paid to do to say harmful and hurtful things that are untrue.

If you, love me, as you tell the press you do, please stop. Please allow us to live our lives in peace. Please stop lying, please stop creating so much pain, please stop exploiting my relationship with my husband, and please stop taking the bait from the press.

I realize you are so far down this rabbit hole that you feel (or may feel) there is no way out, but if you take a moment to pause I think you’ll see that being able to live with a clear conscience is more valuable than any payment in the world. I ask for nothing other than peace, and I wish the same for you.

Meg

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not read any articles, have you watched the SA documentary?

Nope, why would I? I've always said that I don't care about this couple, it's the obvious bigotry aimed at them that bothers me.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Nope, I didn't pay any heed to the candles in the abbey thing, or believe she threw hot tea around someone or the bruises Harry was seen with were maybe caused by Meghan bashing him...and lots more silly stuff. Discernment is important Dezzy.

You say that, but you'll believe hearsay and gossip. It doesn't really make you all that believable when you talk about being discerning but you treat Lizzie Cundy being paid to say things as a bastion of truth.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not read any articles, have you watched the SA documentary?

.....

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

I said it to 'one' person, about a particular subject, which suddenly becomes 'everyone'. Your posts are full of the most dreadful exaggeration and mind - reading attempts.

I don't read minds, I read the words you write. If you take issue with that, then look to your own posts because I'm just responding to what you are saying.

[LukeB]

I don't think anyone is going to take you all seriously with all this africa doc since Meghan haters have an agenda and it's not coming from a non-bias pov. Meghan being asked how she is feeling is always left out,

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nope, why would I? I've always said that I don't care about this couple, it's the obvious bigotry aimed at them that bothers me.

Yet you posted this back in August:

Honestly, the Royal family should just step aside and let Queen Meg ascend to her rightful throne We are not worthy

Okay, you big fan you.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nope, why would I? I've always said that I don't care about this couple, it's the obvious bigotry aimed at them that bothers me.

Perhaps if you knew more about them you might see why people have opinions on them....watch the documentary then come on here and defend them.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Yet you posted this back in August:



Okay, you big fan you.

Not one for sarcasm, are you?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Perhaps if you knew more about them you might see why people have opinions on them....watch the documentary then come on here and defend them.

People with agendas*

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Meghan haters have an agenda ,

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well they do to justify their toxic hate towards a woman of colour


you all clutch at straws over anything Meghan does and try and twist it too.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not one for sarcasm, are you?

Right Jan. Busted.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Perhaps if you knew more about them you might see why people have opinions on them....watch the documentary then come on here and defend them.

'Watch this one thing and then disregard everything else like we have!'

Nope, I don't need to watch a documentary from one perspective to comment on the media coverage of these two and how Meghan's treatment compares to Kate's for the same behaviours.

Even in this thread, we saw an article posted that contained little to no facts but pure speculation to force a narrative that wasn't supported by anything resembling evidence. That's the same thing for all the coverage that Meghan has. It's just endless fiction meant to rile up the gullible and deeply foolish that lack the critical thinking to see it for what it is. People cling to gossip and speculation because they think it justifies their hate.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Watch this one thing and then disregard everything else like we have!'

Nope, I don't need to watch a documentary from one perspective to comment on the media coverage of these two and how Meghan's treatment compares to Kate's for the same behaviours.

Even in this thread, we saw an article posted that contained little to no facts but pure speculation to force a narrative that wasn't supported by anything resembling evidence. That's the same thing for all the coverage that Meghan has. It's just endless fiction meant to rile up the gullible and deeply foolish that lack the critical thinking to see it for what it is. People cling to gossip and speculation because they think it justifies their hate.

Then read serious articles from long time sources that have proved to be reliable over many years. I've posted their names often enough for research but no -one admits to reading them for more info.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Right Jan. Busted.

I am embarrassed for you, if that's the best you can come up with. You trawled through months of my posts to find a sarcastic post that you're trying to pass off as genuine and you're acting so smug about it because you lack the critical thought to see the problems with what you're trying (and failing miserably) to do.

Grow up.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Then read serious articles from long time sources that have proved to be reliable over many years. I've posted their names often enough for research but no -one admits to reading them for more info.

You've been told many times why people don't pay heed to your gossip rags and speculative articles, reading glossy magazines and tabloids is not research.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I am embarrassed for you, if that's the best you can come up with. You trawled through months of my posts to find a sarcastic post that you're trying to pass off as genuine and you're acting so smug about it because you lack the critical thought to see the problems with what you're trying (and failing miserably) to do.

Grow up.

I didn't trawl through anything, you're not that important. I happened across it when I was reading another thread earlier for a post I made about Tom Bradby.