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Old 12-05-2024, 09:17 AM #1
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It's all political manoeuvring to satisfy voters later in the year. All the USA are doing is restricting a few of their larger weapons, it means nothing in the scheme of things
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Most moral army in the world, remember.
Remember? I'd literally never heard it referred to as such until people started saying it sarcastically at some point over the weekend.

But I suppose it has the same energy as "Religion of Peace."
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Remember? I'd literally never heard it referred to as such until people started saying it sarcastically at some point over the weekend.

But I suppose it has the same energy as "Religion of Peace."
Your ignorance isn't my problem.



Jainism is the only religion of peace.
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The best place to see what's going on is Telegram. It explains why so many people are now angry with the Israeli government.
Whilst the IDF loves TiKToK, it also loves Telegram and posts videos of the atrocities they are proud of.
If you watch the crude videos on Telegram, you will unfortunately see things you never wanted to see. This is probably the first time in history we are witnesses to blatant war crimes literally as they happen. In the past we've heard about how brutal regimes and even seen photographs but we now have access to horrors unfolding on a daily basis, that are unimaginable.

MSM show us nothing, just like they showed us nothing about previous invasions and war atrocities. Whilst the Israeli Lobby aren't as powerful in the UK as they are in the U.S, they still have a lot of umf about what's printed.

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I remember seeing hamas beheading a woman with a garden spade as they made her husband watch just after 0ct 7th.....
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I hope the hostages are safe and they get out alive, but this bombing has been so catastrophic, along with starvation and disease from polluted water, I fear its not going to be many.
This is why thousands are protesting in Israel, including families of the hostages who are regularly fired on with water-cannons. The longer this goes on, the less likely they are going to get their families back.
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I hope the hostages are safe and they get out alive, but this bombing has been so catastrophic, along with starvation and disease from polluted water, I fear its not going to be many.
This is why thousands are protesting in Israel, including families of the hostages who are regularly fired on with water-cannons. The longer this goes on, the less likely they are going to get their families back.
That's all very sadly true DemRed.

I just see this getting worse, even moreso as long as Netanyahu stays in control.
It's frightening and desperately sad for the ordinary citizens of both sides.

Netanyahu won't even listen to his strongest allies.
Only the dangerous voices making up his despicable government.
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That's all very sadly true DemRed.

I just see this getting worse, even moreso as long as Netanyahu stays in control.
It's frightening and desperately sad for the ordinary citizens of both sides.

Netanyahu won't even listen to his strongest allies.
Only the dangerous voices making up his despicable government.
The guy is a monster.
Neither parties have covered themselves with glory, but this is genocide now and I can't support it.
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The guy is a monster.
Neither parties have covered themselves with glory, but this is genocide now and I can't support it.
He absolutely is Vanessa.

As soon as I saw him taking over as PM again.
I expected some conflict.

However nothing like this.
Nor the blatant murder of the 7 international aid workers .

I cannot support Netanyahu and his really atrocious government.
It seems neither can the Israeli citizens.
I hope whenever this is concluded that Netanyahu will be out of power for goo

It is heartbreaking to think of the slaughtering going on now
October last year was pure evil from Hamas.
However there comes a point where 2 wrongs DON'T make a right.

I cannot now support this continuing.
What really worries me is what too our own PM Sunak stated at the start of Israel's retaliation.
When he said we stand with Israel ALWAYS''.
Virtually giving a blank cheque to them.

He's never retracted those words .

It's hard to look at this now and not think International law has been broken.
Even possibly war crimes too.
The frightening this is just where this is going to go and for how long too.
It's now wrong what Israel is doing.
It greatly saddens me to say that but I don't support it now either.
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I hope the hostages are safe and they get out alive, but this bombing has been so catastrophic, along with starvation and disease from polluted water, I fear its not going to be many.
This is why thousands are protesting in Israel, including families of the hostages who are regularly fired on with water-cannons. The longer this goes on, the less likely they are going to get their families back.


You've kind of twisted what happened on memorial day...there were 2 rallies, one was against Netanyahu, the other one, the families of the hostages one was still calling for the return of the living and dead hostages, and for there to be no wavering until they are all back so they can be reunited with family or laid to rest by family.


Why dont the Palestinians protest for the release of the hostages?

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You've kind of twisted what happened on memorial day...there were 2 rallies, one was against Netanyahu, the other one, the families of the hostages one was still calling for the return of the living and dead hostages, and for there to be no wavering until they are all back so they can be reunited with family or laid to rest by family.


Why dont the Palestinians protest for the release of the hostages?
I haven't twisted anything! Protests haven't just happened on memorial day. There are regular protests.

As for the Palestinians, if they aren't dead, injured, starved or diseased and if they still had their homes and access to warm clothing, who knows what they would do, but right now, they have their own despair.
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I haven't twisted anything! Protests haven't just happened on memorial day. There are regular protests.

As for the Palestinians, if they aren't dead, injured, starved or diseased and if they still had their homes and access to warm clothing, who knows what they would do, but right now, they have their own despair.
The ones elsewhere could..
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YOu would think their neighbours Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon would help or at least some of the rich gulf states

looks like the Palestine people have few friends in that area, which is a puzzle

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YOu would think their neighbours Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon would help or at least some of the rich gulf states

looks like the Palestine people have few friends in that area, which is a puzzle

It's not a very big "puzzle" - how do you imagine these countries got rich?

Do you need a hand with these as well Trumpet

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At this very moment, Hamas terrorists are still holding innocent Israelis hostage.

These people decided to tear down posters of those hostages and stuff them in bin liners.

This incident took place yesterday at 18:00 on Limes Avenue in Golders Green, north London.

If you have further information, please e-mail contact@antisemitism.org

Jews aren’t even free to remember kidnapped Jews in Golders Green.

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Who ever said random non-government thugs were the good guys?
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71 percent of the Palestinian population supported Hamas's actions on oct 7th, maybe they see it only fair to take 71 percent of the aid.
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They'd still have the fresh water through the system the EU paid £100 million for if they hadn't dismantled it to make homemade rockets.

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They'd still have the fresh water through the system the EU paid £100 million for it they hadn't dismantled it to make homemade rockets.
Silly Livia

Hamas/Palestine are the innocence oppressed
Don't you watch telegram and Chinese tiktok
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Don't you watch telegram and Chinese tiktok
I get my news from Hamas press releases, just like the BBC do. They wouldn't lie to us, would they?
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I get my news from Hamas press releases, just like the BBC do. They wouldn't lie to us, would they?
Well we did find out today they lied by double the deaths of Palestinian people

But hey ho, these things happen...

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